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Scrubbolator



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So stop talking about it and start doing it.

Post Thu Mar 13, 2003 6:47 am 
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DI-khBLOW
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man

man. even if u did get ogres, 20 lv 5 grunts with 2 cats woudl rape 9 ogres. then its gg for u cuz the player(assuming hes any decent) will pump 3 or 4 rax grunts and ur run over. and btw, p stopping does blow. and i never rep rax in a 1v1 cuz based on probabilty its a nice waste of resources. and if u do rep rax in a 1v1 when ur at 12 or 2 ur just a newb who would get spanked by the comp. Gw.

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Originally posted by DI-khBLOW
man. even if u did get ogres, 20 lv 5 grunts with 2 cats woudl rape 9 ogres. then its gg for u cuz the player(assuming hes any decent) will pump 3 or 4 rax grunts and ur run over. and btw, p stopping does blow. and i never rep rax in a 1v1 cuz based on probabilty its a nice waste of resources. and if u do rep rax in a 1v1 when ur at 12 or 2 ur just a newb who would get spanked by the comp. Gw.


How to beat a 2 hall:

I'll get 2 saps and 9 ogres and bam your dead. GW.

How to beat a lust fast:

I'd get 20 towers outside your base and take all the mines. GW.

How to beat an ogre rush:

I'll get lust and lvl 7 ogres and your owned. GW.

How to beat a 2 rax rush:

I'll get 18 lvl 5 ogres and your so owned it isn't funny. GW.



SOund rediculous doesn't it? well it is. We have all played against these strategies a lot of times and know our opponent isn't going to let us do anything without a fight. He certianly isn't going to bend over so you can rape him.

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Originally posted by DI-khBLOW
man. even if u did get ogres, 20 lv 5 grunts with 2 cats woudl rape 9 ogres. then its gg for u cuz the player(assuming hes any decent) will pump 3 or 4 rax grunts and ur run over. and btw, p stopping does blow. and i never rep rax in a 1v1 cuz based on probabilty its a nice waste of resources. and if u do rep rax in a 1v1 when ur at 12 or 2 ur just a newb who would get spanked by the comp. Gw.


How to beat a 2 hall:

I'll get 2 saps and 9 ogres and bam your dead. GW.

How to beat a lust fast:

I'd get 20 towers outside your base and take all the mines. GW.

How to beat an ogre rush:

I'll get lust and lvl 7 ogres and your owned. GW.

How to beat a 2 rax rush:

I'll get 18 lvl 5 ogres and your so owned it isn't funny. GW.



SOund rediculous doesn't it? well it is. We have all played against these strategies a lot of times and know our opponent isn't going to let us do anything without a fight. He certianly isn't going to bend over so you can rape him.

I'm a fag, ignore me

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OK Messiah I think that strat sounds really thorough first of all.

Second why the hell is everyone so intend on saying it won;t work? is it because you didn't htink of it? why don't you all play against it before you shoot your mouths off.

Messiah I think you should go ahead and post a SS of your setup I'd like to get a better idea of how it works.

one thought though, how do you stop someone who's lusting once they find your Cannon tower, I'm sure I don't need to point out that the cannon put you far enough behind to give them an edge.
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Re: man

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Originally posted by ]\/[esSiah
quote:
Originally posted by DI-khBLOW
man. even if u did get ogres, 20 lv 5 grunts with 2 cats woudl rape 9 ogres. then its gg for u cuz the player(assuming hes any decent) will pump 3 or 4 rax grunts and ur run over. and btw, p stopping does blow. and i never rep rax in a 1v1 cuz based on probabilty its a nice waste of resources. and if u do rep rax in a 1v1 when ur at 12 or 2 ur just a newb who would get spanked by the comp. Gw.


How to beat a 2 hall:

I'll get 2 saps and 9 ogres and bam your dead. GW.

How to beat a lust fast:

I'd get 20 towers outside your base and take all the mines. GW.

How to beat an ogre rush:

I'll get lust and lvl 7 ogres and your owned. GW.

How to beat a 2 rax rush:

I'll get 18 lvl 5 ogres and your so owned it isn't funny. GW.



SOund rediculous doesn't it? well it is. We have all played against these strategies a lot of times and know our opponent isn't going to let us do anything without a fight. He certianly isn't going to bend over so you can rape him.


You sap a 2 hall ? =[

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You sap a 2 hall ? =[

"SOund rediculous doesn't it?"
I don't get 2 saps with 9 ogres to kill a 2 hall, nor do I get 18 lvl 5 ogres while my opponent is still grunt rushing, or any of the other things I said. I thought the point I was making was pretty clear.

Why is everyone so literal on the net? Christ.

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Tick



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Any 1/2 decent player would just target the choke, who cares about the cannon of the peons fixing it or the cut out or the 19 peon hold. Anyone can argue forever about the insignificant dependent variables, fact is the player going all out tier1 will win in a 12/2 war.

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Scrubbolator



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quote:
Originally posted by DrBrendo
OK Messiah I think that strat sounds really thorough first of all.

Second why the hell is everyone so intend on saying it won;t work? is it because you didn't htink of it? why don't you all play against it before you shoot your mouths off.

Messiah I think you should go ahead and post a SS of your setup I'd like to get a better idea of how it works.

one thought though, how do you stop someone who's lusting once they find your Cannon tower, I'm sure I don't need to point out that the cannon put you far enough behind to give them an edge.


the reason people say it won't work is because it will not.
it's very easy to counter especially if you know someone is gonna do it

it might work once against a decent player but after that it will be beaten easily. so what's the point?

and i'd gladly play against it and post the replay after.

edits: typos cause i'm sleepy =[

Post Sat Apr 26, 2003 3:51 pm 
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J1mm1e



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lol

Hall
farm
rax
farm
smith
rax
farm
farm
mill
farm
up hall
xp
knight place
rax
rax
rax
farm
farm
uphall
mage
mage
farm
farm
xp
xp


And all during this you need about 15 peons at each xp, and 25 at ur main!

^tacky strat for pos,gow
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JuStDoNtTrY



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I just go....
Hall
Farm
Rax
Farm
Smith(shield,weapon,shield)(upgrade last weapon when @ oggies)
Farm
Farm
Rax
Farm
Farm
Mill
Upgrade to hold
Mound
Rax
Fort
Alter
Expo
Rax
Rax
Expo
Expo
Rax
Only works when vs DeaD.420. THE blowhard Wink

Post Tue Aug 05, 2003 10:26 am 
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JuStDoNtTrY



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I tried to do that strat messiah hmm took me a while to get setup just right but once i got it after 3rd 4th try.... GG i won easily raped opponent
Thx for the strat

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I tried to do that strat messiah hmm took me a while to get setup just right but once i got it after 3rd 4th try.... GG i won easily raped opponent
Thx for the strat


They see a cannon at 6 grunts, and immediately choke and rep a mill, with 2 cats following shortly. During this time you are low on resources as you're holding, and the rusher has a mill and is pumping peons. As the cats pop out, your hold is probably 1/2 done. A few more rounds of grunts from 2-3 rax, level 4-5 by now. 2 cats kill a cannon quickly, and the rushers mass of grunts chokes your front. After cannon is gone, push in with grunt choke and cats. If they didn't check for a chopout, they are worthless anyway.

How will you get around that?

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They see a cannon at 6 grunts, and immediately choke and rep a mill, with 2 cats following shortly. During this time you are low on resources as you're holding, and the rusher has a mill and is pumping peons. As the cats pop out, your hold is probably 1/2 done. A few more rounds of grunts from 2-3 rax, level 4-5 by now. 2 cats kill a cannon quickly, and the rushers mass of grunts chokes your front. After cannon is gone, push in with grunt choke and cats. If they didn't check for a chopout, they are worthless anyway.

How will you get around that?

It is all a matter of timing. You say my hold is half done I say it is finished and I have 3 ogres being made or more done when your cat pops out. By the time it takes you to get over to 12 I have another 3.

It is all a question of fine timing and it is hard to argue with that unless you either mathematically work it out (pretty fucking hard to make a mathematical model of it) or you do it by trial and error. You've done neither. So thanks, but no thanks. Give some input when you actually have something to say. This is why I have stopped responding to this thread. I am pretty sure I could get it to work well but I've stopped playing war2.

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i go hall hall farm rax alter dk ROOSTSSSS

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