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Sparkz102

Joined: 27 Feb 2003
Posts: 2999
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Re: Current Race Balance
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Originally posted by Shotgun_
I'm probably bias, from my perspective i'd say -
Zerg Vs Terran - Zerg has the edge particularly on larger maps, close spawn gives terran a small advantage
Zerg Vs Protoss - Toss imbalanced @ max supply pretty heavily
Protoss Vs Terran - Pretty even, terran has to have good army comp to deal with what the toss has (opposite to popular belief), Max supply i'd say Toss has advantage
have u seen some of the new gsl maps? _________________ I am also a contradiction of my own lies
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Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:35 pm |
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Rat

Joined: 24 Mar 2005
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rofl newbgun _________________ GreenHorn: Nexus cried every time I beat him but still thought he was better.
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Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:54 am |
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turtleman@can
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Posts: 8841
Location: Canada |
I think it really just depends in zvp - I think this is the most fun/interesting matchup in the game for me. I find I usually win pretty badly because most toss players don't know how to play their race beyond either 4 gating or doing some stupid huge econ FE/collosus/VR build - which I counter hard with mutas.
But when I play somebody who knows what they're doing and can flow with me the games are pretty awesome.
zvt is imbalanced to say the least. I'm not even going to go into detail since it's pretty common knowledge among the community/pro gamers. However I feel like I'm improving on this - it's just a hard matchup to learn as zerg and requires you to play at an insanely high level to beat an average terran player.
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Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:16 pm |
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AGNB
Joined: 01 Sep 2010
Posts: 82
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Easy.
1 - P
2 - T
3 - Z
2 Zerg players in top 20 NA. There is no argument for them being OP.
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Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:34 pm |
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Frostbitten

Joined: 20 Mar 2009
Posts: 631
Location: denver, co |
quote:
Originally posted by turtleman@can
I think it really just depends in zvp - I think this is the most fun/interesting matchup in the game for me. I find I usually win pretty badly because most toss players don't know how to play their race beyond either 4 gating or doing some stupid huge econ FE/collosus/VR build - which I counter hard with mutas.
But when I play somebody who knows what they're doing and can flow with me the games are pretty awesome.
zvt is imbalanced to say the least. I'm not even going to go into detail since it's pretty common knowledge among the community/pro gamers. However I feel like I'm improving on this - it's just a hard matchup to learn as zerg and requires you to play at an insanely high level to beat an average terran player.
PHOENIX!!!  _________________ --Frostbitten
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Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:42 pm |
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7VlesSiah

Joined: 16 Feb 2001
Posts: 2456
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quote:
Originally posted by AGNB
Easy.
1 - P
2 - T
3 - Z
2 Zerg players in top 20 NA. There is no argument for them being OP.
Hard to argue toss are the best given ratio is in top tournies and ladders is 0.5 terran to 0.25 toss to 0.25 Zerg. Terrans gotta stfu already. _________________ I have hacks in my brain and I use them.
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Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:16 pm |
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Picka_materina

Joined: 25 Jan 2002
Posts: 2014
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quote:
Originally posted by Shotgun_
Messiah you dont even play anymore, you cant make balance comments based on how many people use what race. As for Zerg, i dont really think its common knowledge that TvZ is still imba, ive spoken to alot of really good players who all think Z has the edge now on larger maps, and from my playing experience i would have to agree
PS. Noted Picka_matera dodges 1on1s
More newb input.
Also, keep making fake challenges since we're on different realms. _________________
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:53 am |
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Picka_materina

Joined: 25 Jan 2002
Posts: 2014
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Re: Current Race Balance
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Originally posted by Shotgun_
I'm probably bias, from my perspective i'd say -
Zerg Vs Terran - Zerg has the edge particularly on larger maps, close spawn gives terran a small advantage
Zerg Vs Protoss - Toss imbalanced @ max supply pretty heavily
Protoss Vs Terran - Pretty even, terran has to have good army comp to deal with what the toss has (opposite to popular belief), Max supply i'd say Toss has advantage
Just how newb this input is.
win ratio by blizzard:
pvt 41%
pvz 45%
tvz 53% _________________
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:43 pm |
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Picka_materina

Joined: 25 Jan 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by Picka_materina
keep making fake challenges since we're on different realms.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:44 pm |
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Picka_materina

Joined: 25 Jan 2002
Posts: 2014
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quote:
Originally posted by Shotgun_
PS. Name one thing i've lied about
1. I'm being towered
2. I'm rich
3. I'm 100000:0 vs almost every forum user that ever posted anything here, even when there's warvids, you're still 100000:0 vs them.
just to name a few. _________________
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:47 am |
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7VlesSiah

Joined: 16 Feb 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Shotgun_
Messiah you dont even play anymore, you cant make balance comments based on how many people use what race. As for Zerg, i dont really think its common knowledge that TvZ is still imba, ive spoken to alot of really good players who all think Z has the edge now on larger maps, and from my playing experience i would have to agree
PS. Noted Picka_matera dodges 1on1s
Everyone you talk to is terran. You cannot cry imba when every statistic indicates terran is the best race. They are the most stable and consistent race and occupy about 50% of the top teir spots on ladder and leagues.
ie...
Top 20
World rankings: 10 terran
Korean rankings: 10 terran
European rankings: 11 terran
NA rankings: 9 terran
Average: 50% terran
You have no argument for imbalance when the numbers show Terran have a strong advantage across the board. _________________ I have hacks in my brain and I use them.
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