In case you don't know. Cool is one of the top zerg players in the world.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=155310

Seems like every day is worse than the last for zerg fans
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lol zerg babbies
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i zero bagged your mother

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hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
listen little friend stay outta the deep end
cuz you're less street than vampire weekend

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I would enjoy seeing more zerg pro players. I don't really enjoy watching pvt or mirror matchups.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D5tMlK1GuY&feature=channel
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The game has sort of gotten stale for me. I haven't played much the last month.
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I have hacks in my brain and I use them.

GomTV's rip off 1 month = a season for $20's has helped steer me away from the game.
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I have hacks in my brain and I use them.

yeah I think that's a pretty huge rip off too. I honestly don't even care who wins that tournament. Although I think the game is getting better the more I play. You should log on and start playing some iccup maps.

Also if anyone wants to know how to get iccup maps, create a multiplayer game and in the search box, type iccup and hit enter... it will give you a list of all of the maps. These guys were the same guys who created all of the bw maps played in pro tournaments.

Sypher, what balance changes would you like to see?

BTW, GomTV is a rip off.
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-tech labs are too powerful. Terran tech path needs to be constricted more. For tier 1.5, terran just needs a tech lab. Zerg needs a roach warren, and toss needs a core. The way add-on mechanic works, it is too easy for terran to tech switch and they can pump out tier 2 extremely fast.

-Medivacs are also too powerful. Maybe up the supply for them. 2 supply for a dropship and a medic is pretty ridiculous when you think about it. Other solutions would be to decrease healing, have the healing or drop portion be an upgrade, or not allow unload to be shift queued. This effects TvP more than TvZ though.

-The tank nerf really doesn't do much in the ZvT matchup. Hydras now take 3 hits instead of 2, and lings take 3 hits instead of 2 on the outermost splash radius. shots to kill don't change on direct impact and mid splash. Someone did a test and 60 food hydra vs 30 food tank means that hyras now kill 3 tanks instead of 1. Pretty ridiculous.

-Marauders and reapers do too much damage to buildings. It creates a situation in which zerg can't be aggressive since medivacs create insane mobility.

-Hellions come too fast

-Banshees come too fast

Obviously if all of these things receive nerfs, the balance could completely switch in favor of zerg. However, these are the problems zerg face against terran. Blizzard needs to slowly scale back some of these things until Zerg stands a chance in the early game.

One idea I have seen floating around is to switch Roach and Hydra on the tech tree and buff/nerf them respectively. Zerg has very little range with tier 1. Having hydra at tier 1 would mean that ranged units like reapers and hellions couldn't kite the zerg to death. Also banshees would become a lot less effective.
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"I tend to thougoughly enjoy my encounters significantly more with 120+ types, as I find them more stimulating. 100-110 people are okay too operating at full capacity." - Paper_Boy

the roach/hydra idea is a good one i think

before beta they switched the tiers of roach and hydra back and forth several times before ending with what we have now. i don't think they'll make that change at this point since that would affect the game way too much.


though I do wish they would switch their tiers again. I really don't like hydras in sc2.

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Originally posted by Sypher
-tech labs are too powerful. Terran tech path needs to be constricted more. For tier 1.5, terran just needs a tech lab. Zerg needs a roach warren, and toss needs a core. The way add-on mechanic works, it is too easy for terran to tech switch and they can pump out tier 2 extremely fast.

-Medivacs are also too powerful. Maybe up the supply for them. 2 supply for a dropship and a medic is pretty ridiculous when you think about it. Other solutions would be to decrease healing, have the healing or drop portion be an upgrade, or not allow unload to be shift queued. This effects TvP more than TvZ though.

-The tank nerf really doesn't do much in the ZvT matchup. Hydras now take 3 hits instead of 2, and lings take 3 hits instead of 2 on the outermost splash radius. shots to kill don't change on direct impact and mid splash. Someone did a test and 60 food hydra vs 30 food tank means that hyras now kill 3 tanks instead of 1. Pretty ridiculous.

-Marauders and reapers do too much damage to buildings. It creates a situation in which zerg can't be aggressive since medivacs create insane mobility.

-Hellions come too fast

-Banshees come too fast

Obviously if all of these things receive nerfs, the balance could completely switch in favor of zerg. However, these are the problems zerg face against terran. Blizzard needs to slowly scale back some of these things until Zerg stands a chance in the early game.

One idea I have seen floating around is to switch Roach and Hydra on the tech tree and buff/nerf them respectively. Zerg has very little range with tier 1. Having hydra at tier 1 would mean that ranged units like reapers and hellions couldn't kite the zerg to death. Also banshees would become a lot less effective.

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Originally posted by kublikhan
For terran teching too fast to tier 1.5, what is the best solution here? Make tech labs more expensive/slower to warp in? Ditch tech labs altogether and move it's functionality to the academy?

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Originally posted by kublikhan
What about terrans teching too fast to tier 2/3? Make factory take longer to build? Make academy a prerequisite of the factory?

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Originally posted by kublikhan
Is building damage the only problem you see for Marauders? Many seem to feel they need a more general nerf.

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Originally posted by kublikhan
I have also considered swapping tiers for roaches/hydras. I think it would be a good move. It would change dynamics alot, but it seems like the zerg could use a good shakeup.

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So much QQ about problems that don't exist.
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Increase range of roaches by 1 and all is well.

edit* actually that's a bad idea. Just give us an early clutch unit like what terrans have so that we can actually harass and not stay defensive for the first 15 minutes of the game.

zerg are probably the strongs race in the game now
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I think shotgun is right. Nerf them.