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Rat



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 defence against towers

Heres the scenario: You are powering 9 with a cat ip and opponent starts to tower you. You cant save the farms by repairing and you dont have much res.


what to do?

Build a rax and the towers will start attack the the rax instead of the farms.



get your cat out and kill those towers.

gg.
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Scrub



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you just figured this out?
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Rat



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quote:
Originally posted by Scrub
you just figured this out?


No
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foonat



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or when you saw them towering built a tower and don't upgrade it and rep with 2 peons. cheaper, ez.
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turtleman@can



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quote:
Originally posted by foonat
or when you saw them towering built a tower and don't upgrade it and rep with 2 peons. cheaper, ez.


not really since it's occupying 2 peons and riskier
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Pimster



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Yeah this is a nice trick, which Guan and me thought of a while ago as well (only took us like 10 years!) I never get to use it though. Either not the situation or I just forget Smile
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stoned@chayliss



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Location: Indiana USA		 Re: defence against towers

quote:
Originally posted by Rat
Heres the scenario: You are powering 9 with a cat ip and opponent starts to tower you. You cant save the farms by repairing and you dont have much res.


what to do?

Build a rax and the towers will start attack the the rax instead of the farms.



get your cat out and kill those towers.

gg.


shit i didnt know damn
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Kith-Kanin



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NICE! Meanwhile, they'll be breaking in with grunts...
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foonat



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quote:
Originally posted by turtleman@can
quote:
Originally posted by foonat
or when you saw them towering built a tower and don't upgrade it and rep with 2 peons. cheaper, ez.


not really since it's occupying 2 peons and riskier

tower: 550/150
rax: 700/450

that wood is huge early game, you're only occupying 1 more peon, and you can upgrade the tower to defend against grunts which is still cheaper wood than making a rax. remember, it's a 1hall power in 9 we're talking about
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Lightbringer-



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quote:
Originally posted by foonat
that wood is huge early game, you're only occupying 1 more peon, and you can upgrade the tower to defend against grunts which is still cheaper wood than making a rax. remember, it's a 1hall power in 9 we're talking about


ASSUMING the guy does not have grunts, making the RAX would be more economical since he can CANCEL it by the time his CAT pops out only costing him 1/3 res (233 gold and 150wood ultimately) and that useless tower is just a waste of 4 spaces (Can be used to build raxes later)

EDIT: Welcome to theoryCraft™

Of course, people can say that suppose the cat takes more time to build than the rax etc etc!! (well just dont repair rax to the max!) etc etc
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Swift



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thats retarded lightbringer, you're retarded.
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Lightbringer-



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quote:
Originally posted by Swift
thats retarded lightbringer, you're retarded.


Worthless and stupid contribution to a good post. Anyways, youre wortless. All you do is sit in a channel all day long on a quasi dead game. Among the reasons I dont play in RU. Still living off his parents income and whining how he owns @ war2.

I dont give 2 f.uki.ing cents what you think. Last time Im telling you this since when you post, I normally just scroll it down...Same shit applies to Jon.
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Swift



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yeah, because i've been on soooo much lately and i definetly dont easily make more money than you working less hours.

im just saying you're a fucking noob who cannot particpate in a forum of strategic value.
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quote:
Originally posted by Kith-Kanin
NICE! Meanwhile, they'll be breaking in with grunts...


I dunno man, but either you're actually saying this is not a nice litte tactic or you're trying to be funny. In both cases I wouldn't have hit the 'submit' button...
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Fast Luck



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I like the trick of just giving enemy towers something to shoot, it's good.

quote:
Originally posted by Kith-Kanin
NICE! Meanwhile, they'll be breaking in with grunts...
the guy probably doesn't have grunts coming since he milled first, his ally might though Smile the towerer probably would be chopping in however
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quote:
Originally posted by foonat
or when you saw them towering built a tower and don't upgrade it and rep with 2 peons. cheaper, ez.


Not always easy to build a tower when two guards instantly attack it. Although I prefer this method as well, and try to get the tower up before that happens.
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quote:
Originally posted by Lightbringer-
quote:
Originally posted by foonat
that wood is huge early game, you're only occupying 1 more peon, and you can upgrade the tower to defend against grunts which is still cheaper wood than making a rax. remember, it's a 1hall power in 9 we're talking about


ASSUMING the guy does not have grunts, making the RAX would be more economical since he can CANCEL it by the time his CAT pops out only costing him 1/3 res (233 gold and 150wood ultimately) and that useless tower is just a waste of 4 spaces (Can be used to build raxes later)

EDIT: Welcome to theoryCraft™

Of course, people can say that suppose the cat takes more time to build than the rax etc etc!! (well just dont repair rax to the max!) etc etc
cancel the rax and see what those towers do to your farms before you can kill them with a cat ^^
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ViRuZ



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quote:
Originally posted by foonat
quote:
Originally posted by turtleman@can
quote:
Originally posted by foonat
or when you saw them towering built a tower and don't upgrade it and rep with 2 peons. cheaper, ez.


not really since it's occupying 2 peons and riskier

tower: 550/150
rax: 700/450

that wood is huge early game, you're only occupying 1 more peon, and you can upgrade the tower to defend against grunts which is still cheaper wood than making a rax. remember, it's a 1hall power in 9 we're talking about


I always do this while my cat is making... it's way cheaper and it defends vs a few lvl1 grunts..
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Post Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:04 am 
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Pimster



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The scenario just serves as an example.
In this case I'd probably defend with the tower bug.
Opponent won't have many grunts anyway, knowing you're probably powering right off the bat.

About the rax vs. towers thing: in some cases it's probably better to use a rax, as the size of the building creates a lot of safe room for your peons to repair. If people know how to OT properly, they can tower in easily, because the new tower will only start getting hit as soon as its upgraded. Until that time the fully upped towers will get hit.
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turtleman@can



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I just meant in rat's scenario about the rax being better than the tower, because the tower can easily die instantly to 2 towers hitting it before u get a chance to repair it, then u lose the peon and the resources
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whansen02



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quote:
Originally posted by Pimster
Yeah this is a nice trick, which Guan and me thought of a while ago as well (only took us like 10 years!) I never get to use it though. Either not the situation or I just forget Smile

just wanted to comment, i'm in the same situation. i never remember to use it. actually i had forgotten all about it unitl i read this thread. gonna try keep it in mind at my next opportunity cuz it is an excellent move. cheers. will
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chaos



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always build a rax if u gonna go gay.

grunts + early gt = death
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Shynko



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try being less new and not powering.

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chaos



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shynko got shynkod in his ass by me when he tried to power 12 and his ally got his duel broke. it was lolauble.
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Location: Western MA		 power rax wut?

What is power 9, power 12? What are rax? I thought I knew this game??
does one still need to pay to play wc2 online on bne? /newb Can I play wc2 bne against friends for free not using the bne network? (like three computers over a wireless network.)
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 Re: power rax wut?

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Originally posted by Grotug
What is power 9, power 12? What are rax? I thought I knew this game??
does one still need to pay to play wc2 online on bne? /newb Can I play wc2 bne against friends for free not using the bne network? (like three computers over a wireless network.)


9 and 12 are starting locations on the map Garden of War (9 is roughly 9 on a standard clock, 12 is 12, etc.

Powering is a strategy where the player walls in his area, normally with a tower or cat, and tries to reach lusted ogres as quickly as possible.
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 Re: power rax wut?

quote:
Originally posted by Grotug
What is power 9, power 12? What are rax? I thought I knew this game??
does one still need to pay to play wc2 online on bne? /newb Can I play wc2 bne against friends for free not using the bne network? (like three computers over a wireless network.)


just read my strateties they'll tell you step by step how to win against everyone on the server.
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