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Is Djinn's Khinn Latency 3rd Program allowed?
Yes. It's allowed.
82%
 82%  [ 19 ]
No. It's not.
17%
 17%  [ 4 ]
Total Votes : 23

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Sparkz102



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3rd Party Programs.

I make threads... never, maybe my 3rd one, thus respect it's importance.


Lat hack is not allowed for ladder on War2.ru server.


1.It clearly gives an unfair advantage to those that dont use it while showing the user is demonstrating the need to have an edge over his opponent disregarding skill.
2.It's already rumored to be an unstable server in the realm of latency.(altho i can pull peons easier on fastest w/ this server than i could with bnet... impressive.)
3.One hack leads to another u low class no name warcraftians.


This is a black and white issue. There is nothing inbetween, no excuses, or exceptions.

Let us address this issue as fast as we can. Thus this poll will be open for only 30 days. Hopefully this will be recitified with the correct solution before such.

Consequence: The use of this program is subject to ban from the server as of any other 3rd party program that promotes an unfair advantage in competition.

And believe me, it is noticable if someone is just "jokingly switching thru latency cateogories."

Discuss.
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Post Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:15 pm 
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Craze_b0i



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How can latency fix be banned from ladder games but not others. Almost every game (tvb) is ladder. Which in itself causes a whole load of other issues....
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RipE1



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whatever u or anybody else says. im using warlat in every game. period.
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Some players have a good latency without warlat but some others, like me, got the worse latency ever. How many times did i lose a cat war because my stupid cat gets a one second delay every time i shoot. The opponenents shoots me and i dodge him and counter shot him right away (i click his cat a microsecond after the animation of his cat starting to shoot) and there is a stupid one second delay before my stupid cat shoot his cat and of course it misses.

I remember an s9 9 war 1v1 i had maybe 2 months ago. I lost the first game because of that (I usually never put warlat on, i only put it on if the other player use it too). I was so mad cause i knew i was far better but its like his cat was twice as fast when it comes to shooting. It's a big handicap to have a one second delay when shooting with a cat while your opponent has a fast, automatic shoot. Well i rematched this guy and funny enough we got the same spot. But for this game i started warvid and oh my god did he get rape so fucking easy, without my handicap.

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quote:
Originally posted by Craze_b0i
How can latency fix be banned from ladder games but not others. Almost every game (tvb) is ladder. Which in itself causes a whole load of other issues....



YA, why can one player during ladder use a program to give them an advantage on a competitive ranking system, when the other player is left playing the normal correct non cheating way and has to suffer with a handicap.
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Post Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:43 pm 
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Sparkz102



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quote:
Originally posted by RipE1
whatever u or anybody else says. im using warlat in every game. period.


well r1pe, everyone undertalks that you hack along with the rest of your eur0 clan, and not just the smurfs like murderer[eru0] etc,. so your cheating way of playing doesn't surpass my already low expectations for you. period.


i guess this forums votes for hacking is allowed and using programs to gain an advantage is fine when others dont do as such. especially when one player uses it and the other player is now introduced toa lag type style of play because their opponent is cheating.
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Post Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:45 pm 
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i think the forum more votes "if you don't use it, start." its a 2kb download that takes no install... go for it.

Post Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:12 pm 
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RipE1



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lol. what'z ur pr0blem?

me, half of our clan memberz, 9 people wh0 has voted yes (2 no votez only btw) viruz, geno, pyro, etc shit loads of ppl , prolly like 80% of the proper players who use warlat , r u calling those every1 hackerz or just pickin on me?

low expectations... lol.
h0nestly. like I give a flying shit what u think !




oh

ps. imma do sum advertising myself , which iz so popular these days. advertise , advertise!!
every1, new and old players!
i give a straight dl link! dont bother googleing. !
here'z ZWARLAT!
!!!!!!!! http://www.virtualinsomniac.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=584.0;id=431 !!!!!!!!!!!!
FIXEZ THE RESOURCE BUG ( U GET HIGH RES AUTOMATICLY WITHOU SWITCHIN WHEN HOSTIN ) + U GET ACTUALLY BETTER UNIT CONTROL. PERI0D.
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voted yes.

Unit response = good

Post Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:31 pm 
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Strapping Young Lad



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fuck warlat, thats not the issue. the issue is these gay dorks playing their gay custom maps , stacking teams , w/e else to get wins and improve there points. if you don't play gow you should be banned, gg.
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Everyone loves warlat, that's why you're getting killed in this poll. Warlat improves unit responses and that's a good thing. I think everyone should have it and use it, only time I ever wouldn't use it is if my opponent had a Mac or something.
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Post Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:56 pm 
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quote:
Originally posted by RipE1
lol. what'z ur pr0blem?

me, half of our clan memberz, 9 people wh0 has voted yes (2 no votez only btw) viruz, geno, pyro, etc shit loads of ppl , prolly like 80% of the proper players who use warlat , r u calling those every1 hackerz or just pickin on me?

low expectations... lol.
h0nestly. like I give a flying shit what u think !




oh

ps. imma do sum advertising myself , which iz so popular these days. advertise , advertise!!
every1, new and old players!
i give a straight dl link! dont bother googleing. !
here'z ZWARLAT!
!!!!!!!! http://www.virtualinsomniac.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=584.0;id=431 !!!!!!!!!!!!
FIXEZ THE RESOURCE BUG ( U GET HIGH RES AUTOMATICLY WITHOU SWITCHIN WHEN HOSTIN ) + U GET ACTUALLY BETTER UNIT CONTROL. PERI0D.



h4x0ring is my pr0blem. w0w and 2 th1nk I defend3d y0u typ1ng like a fo0L~
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Post Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:35 am 
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as long as both players are using it I don't see whats wrong with it.

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RipE1



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yes hackin iz a problem, i agree fully on that. i hate hackers. any kinda of retards hackin/abusing/etc being gay.
but i dont consider warlat being any kinda hack.
im n0t g0nna list itz positive sidez here once again but ive done it in several forums / several threads.
warlat makes the gameplay better.
if sum1 iz to0 lazy to dl 20kb prog. fuk him.
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quote:
Originally posted by SoCzNedoK
as long as both players are using it I don't see whats wrong with it.


Yeah sure as long as both players map hacks, build hacks or spell hacks its all good!!

No scouting, knowing wat strat to use, counter etc...

Why upgrade to fort heck...Waste of res...Build a temple after first farm!

Yeah, as long as one person uses it, its unfair and gives a definite advantage.

So Ripe fuck you for being a complete idiot and claiming warlat aint a hack.
I've lost EF games by not being able to pull with that shit on from one player only...

And whoever activates it last (even if all persons have it loaded) will get the most advantage in terms of latency...
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quote:
if sum1 iz to0 lazy to dl 20kb prog. fuk him.

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warlat doesn't give you any more advantage than a fast internet connection or playin from russia would. "OMG YOU HAVE FAST INTERNET YOU HACKER!"

Post Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:52 pm 
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Usin WarLat should definitely be allowed. It is a legal form of better response time and it can be used by ANYONE. Thus, there should not be a problem using it. If u choose NOT to use it and be "handicapped", then that's your problem. Thank you.
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warlat isnt a hack at all. It is a self-supported fix from a nice guy, due to lack of b.net support for this game.

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My stance is, its not necessairly a hack, but a program that modify's response time in the game itself, that ideally should of been there anyways. That in itself puts the latency program in a different catagory then map hacks, etc. I think it should be allowed IF everyone in the game agrees on it. Sometimes when I have it on, I just turn it on, but dont bother messing with it. I wait and see who changes it first, then just still be on the same playing field.

I hear ldir saying patches and etc.. any way to patch that into the original game so all players can have it?

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quote:

I hear ldir saying patches and etc.. any way to patch that into the original game so all players can have it?



extremely go0d idea! make it happen ldir :]]
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quote:
Originally posted by ViRuZ
Usin WarLat should definitely be allowed. It is a legal form of better response time and it can be used by ANYONE. Thus, there should not be a problem using it. If u choose NOT to use it and be "handicapped", then that's your problem. Thank you.


"Legal?" in who's eye? yours?

yea, just like hacks...!! anyone can use them and if you dont use it of course, it was YOUR choice to be "handicapped" "Thank you"

did u fucking read this response after u wrote it or just spew up text with some words hoping u'd get a point across.
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quote:
Originally posted by Tyrus
warlat isnt a hack at all. It is a self-supported fix from a nice guy, due to lack of b.net support for this game.


no rororus, it is a hack. you merely stated what the program's intentions and history were.
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by definition its a hack, but its intetion isn't to give an advantage... its to make gameplay more enjoyable. nothing makes me want to move to a better game more than clicking my catapault or dragon to move and having to wait 25 seconds. only time i wont use it is if i'm playing somebody on a mac, since it doesn't work on mac. if i'm playing somebody with a PC its their fault.

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the game was meant to be played with no lat, and this program helps fix it a little. try playing fastest on single player look at how well the response time is.

bnet just fucks it up

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indeed. try playin war2 in lan. ive done it. or try kali. the unit response time iz unbelievable. there iz no lag at all! that'z how war2 iz meant to b played! and warlat just fixez(or makez it a bit better) what bnet has screwed!
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Most people are used to the crappy response time by now so it shouldn't be that big of a problem.

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