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ThePanacea



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Make this shape

Can any of you make the shape found at
http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/tightinn/shape.gif

without "lifting" your "pencil" and without retracing lines (you can cross over previous intersections)?

Post Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:41 pm 
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Axolotl



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I actually used to try this in class sometimes. I'll leave it at that.

Post Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:50 pm 
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ThePanacea



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Can it definitely be done? We were trying to figure it out in class after someone brought it up ..

Post Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:29 pm 
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Zeno



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Re: Make this shape

quote:
Originally posted by ThePanacea
Can any of you make the shape found at
http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/tightinn/shape.gif

without "lifting" your "pencil" and without retracing lines (you can cross over previous intersections)?


My guess is that it is impossible looking at it from a logical standpoint. In this instance, you have four points with an odd number of lines coming from it (only including the vertices). To complete the drawing with only two point with an odd number of lines, you need to start on it, and using the lines:
1) go from it
2) go to it
3) go from it
4) go to it
5) go from it
so you are no longer on that point and are free to move to the rest of the points with no problems. To see what I mean, take away three of the triangle leaving you with the box, lines inside the box, and one triangle. This is easy to do because it only has two points with an odd number of lines.

I doubt that was very clear, but just think of it like this: You need two or zero points with an odd number of lines protruding to complete this puzzle.

Post Fri Apr 09, 2004 3:52 pm 
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Kith-Kanin



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I did it first try actually. Confused You have to do triangles.


|\
| /
|/
Then do inside triangle

/
/
\
Move on to next

---
\/
etc...

Post Fri Apr 09, 2004 4:11 pm 
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Zeno



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quote:
Originally posted by Kith-Kanin
I did it first try actually. Confused You have to do triangles.


|\
| /
|/
Then do inside triangle

/
/
\
Move on to next

---
\/
etc...


Not seein' what you're sayin'.

Post Fri Apr 09, 2004 4:16 pm 
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DjinnKahn



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look up Euler Path :P

Post Fri Apr 09, 2004 5:20 pm 
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Zeno



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quote:
Originally posted by DjinnKahn
look up Euler Path Razz


Nah. I'll just assume I'm right as all arrogant people do. Smile

Post Fri Apr 09, 2004 5:27 pm 
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Bryter-



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quote:
Originally posted by Kith-Kanin
I did it first try actually.


Try this one then Cool

http://www.plunk.org/~hatch/MagicCube4dApplet/

Post Fri Apr 09, 2004 5:28 pm 
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'Mage



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its not possible as djinn said.. its called an eulerian walk if you happen to look that one up you could also look up hamiltonian walks, those are also interesting
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Post Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:07 pm 
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Zeno



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Oh, so I was right. ^_^

Post Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:11 pm 
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Bobbo



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Zeno's right. I remember this stuff from school. Cool
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