before you flame me, i did quit, but my new video card bit the dust, and i cant play anything but war2 for aw hile=[ anyways my 9/11 dual and 4/5 dual untouched is powerful and fast, but i have trouble in 1on1s, like, ill dual 9/11 with two watch towers, and upgrade them if they scout me (in case of a 4/5 dual,i wont be behind for havin defense and him not), and if i think they will cat i chop out with grunts and dual rush. but, i noticed, i have a tough time when they pscout real early, and either get guard towers up or cannon towers up really fast on my wallin, or a pscout thats real careful and i dont see them scout me and allofa sudden i got cats and towers on me. =/ any strategical recommendations? is it better to just rush in 1on1s? (at 9/11, 4/5) I usually dual at 9 and 11, and at 4, but rush at 5.


and plz only answers from good dualers plz =[
thanks,
allstar

You have many options just dont rush!.
You can get a fast scout tower b4 ur farm in like yah`dood used to do. Or you can just use a couple reppers and dont farm in early and when ur done repping u can scout outside with a peon and rape ne peon or towers. And if he runs in 9 dont let him rax you which is ez and if he does dont farm in 9 just get some guards. Or if he cannons you you can just throw up some guards out of his range and hes fucked.

If he goes mad guards at 1 town you can go fast cat (Better then a rush) or make a tower by your gold and just mine the shit out of it untill you can kill the towers. Or you could always farm off by the paths so he loses range on his towers. And if he goes guards and u defend your main well and may loose ur exp a sneeka rush works well.

At 9, for the peoples that uses the classic setup, build your tower before your rax. You will be able to see quicker if you got scouted and therefore, react faster. Then it's just ress management.

Always find enemy first, I wouldn't ever dual in a 1v1. If you have to dual id dual rush, it counters the OTs and can beat duals but i have a hard time keeping up with the good rushers. Best thing to do is pscout enemy first, you can usually tell what the enemy is doing from the pscout so adapt.

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I wouldn't ever dual in a 1v1.

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I wouldn't ever dual in a 1v1.

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stop talking now

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I wouldn't ever dual in a 1v1.

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stop talking now

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ok if you straight dual your fucked cuz im gonna cat you or gay you and take map ...if you dont die you'll atleast lose your active base so dont talk to me.

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I wouldn't ever dual in a 1v1.

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stop talking now

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ok if you straight dual your fucked cuz im gonna cat you or gay you and take map ...if you dont die you'll atleast lose your active base so dont talk to me.

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I'll have ogres with a chop out before you get to me fucktard. Especially on fastest where dualing is a lot easier to pull off.[/quote]

Any1 good will wall the dualer when they try and chop out with ots, cats and grunts.

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Any1 good will wall the dualer when they try and chop out with ots, cats and grunts.

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Originally posted by uSmurf@USEast
Any1 good will wall the dualer when they try and chop out with ots, cats and grunts.

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My god. Get on war2 and i'll gladly give you a lesson
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And explain what u would do to beat a dual that doesn't include rushing/catting/OTing since thats all newbie shit to do?

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And explain what u would do to beat a dual that doesn't include rushing/catting/OTing since thats all newbie shit to do?
Any1 good will wall the dualer when they try and chop out with ots, cats and grunts

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My god. Get on war2 and i'll gladly give you a lesson
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And yes .. you can also Counterdual, which I prefer to ot'ing + cating

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lol i wouldn't leave a dual untouched and late dual

btw can u please take a prozak before u reply? =\

For christ sakes, it is not rocket science.
"late dual" ???? LATE? WHY?
You put up a hall farm rax and whatnot, and scout. So the guy is dualing. OK.
Now, you probably have about 4 grunts when you scout him(if you werent doing some stupid 1hall power newbie shit). Make your 2nd hall, stop making grunts, and use those 4 grunts to make him build towers. Its a fucking fact (if you do not suck shit), that when you made those 4 grunts and dualed, while he made 2 early gts and dualed off the start, you will not fall behind. If you do, you fucking blow, and should learn how to do it.

There is no science to beat a dualer.......

sometimes it happens sometimes it dont....

Um, ur lil stupid 4 fucking grunts wont do shit, if they dual without a smith the gts wont slow them down and ur fucked with ur lil late hall shit its gona get fucking owned by an untouched dual. He's gona get lust before u and take map on ur ass, u cant fuckin leave a dual untouched like that and expect to win with a late hall, omfg its almost like u expect all dualers are not as fast or as good as u.

The much earlier hall of the dualer is a huge advantage because, he has a mill for more lumber and u have a smith for a waste of gold and lumber, without a mill, gg ur fucked ur slowed. Plus ur grunts are made straight away where as his gts can wait leaving his peons building as priority.

Some1 who knows what to do to a dual that actually requires NOT LEAVING IT UNTOUCHED, please post on this board. Im tired of newbies with their counter dual shit posting on here.

Go read axo's strategy guide because you obviously have no idea what your talking about.

Go dl my games @ www.freewebs.com/beatdownofalifetime and watch the games in which I counterdual way better players than you, and beat them to lust after building grunts + a smith.

Obviously if ur beating dualers to lust with a late dual theres something wrong Good dualers put up 4 raxes while going stronghold, and the minute their mound finishes they pump 5 ogies.

And i will watch ur replays and tell u whats wrong with these guys ur late dual is beating.

Which ones are with ur opponent dualing?

No, there is nothing wrong with the dualers if you counter-dual them guy. You simply throw up another hall, rep it w/ 2-3 reppers and start pumping peons. Your not far behind the dualer. I don't remember which games, just dl some and i'm sure I counter-dualed in some of them.

Edit: Nm you silly newb. Dl the PaperBOY game in which I 1 rax rush from 4, scout pb's 9/11 dual (He waits on his smith till hold, like you said is 'impossible' to counter-dual + win. I already have a smith and up'd my grunts). I counter-dual 5 + still ot/cat 9 (He chops out and kills my ot's + cat) and I still beat him to lust in that game against his 'untouched' dual, since he killed my ot before they up'd. I end up loses becuz he scouts my 12 exp before my gt's up'd and rapes it =(.
I win to lust.

This lesson is over.

Gg newbl0r

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Obviously if ur beating dualers to lust with a late dual theres something wrong Good dualers put up 4 raxes while going stronghold, and the minute their mound finishes they pump 5 ogies.

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if ur beating dualers to lust with a late dual theres something wrong