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hassan-i-sabbah
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Psychology research suggests that belief in the supernatural acts as societal glue and motivates people to follow the rules; further, belief in the afterlife helps people grieve and staves off fears of death.
is this supposed to be an indictment of religion somehow
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:25 am |
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Jon;
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lol @ the idea of god being taken seriously like it needs to be meticulously researched and disproved by serious people in a lab coat.
religious beliefs will have died out completely in hundreds of years time.
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:42 am |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by Jon;
Psychology research suggests that belief in the supernatural acts as societal glue and motivates people to follow the rules; further, belief in the afterlife helps people grieve and staves off fears of death.
is this supposed to be an indictment of religion somehow
like this seems to imply that atheists have a mental problem or something or are inherently antisocial. which might be true lol
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:43 am |
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Fast Luck
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jons talking about religion being a crutch for fear of death but isnt he the guy that believes in like a DMT afterlife with no evidence?
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Originally posted by Jon;
lol @ the idea of god being taken seriously like it needs to be meticulously researched and disproved by serious people in a lab coat.
religious beliefs will have died out completely in hundreds of years time.
should we just take that on faith?
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hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:48 am |
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Jon;
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Originally posted by Fast Luck
jons talking about religion being a crutch for fear of death but isnt he the guy that believes in like a DMT afterlife with no evidence?
actually i don't know for sure about DMT being released after death, it has not been found to be fact yet. i don't care either way, but it would be cool.
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should we just take that on faith?
why would faith need to be necessary lol
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:13 am |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by Jon;
why would faith need to be necessary lol
because theres no actual reason to think that will happen
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:20 am |
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Jon;
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The steady rise of disbelief is quite blatant fuckhead.
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:26 am |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by Jon;
The steady rise of disbelief is quite blatant fuckhead.
not really because fundamentalism is a blatantly modern phenomenon and in many parts of the world is still quite popular and even growing
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A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:29 am |
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Jon;
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the fundamentalists were already religious to begin with and just became more extreme in their views, it isn't breeding more religious people.
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:53 am |
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Kith-Kanin
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Originally posted by Jon;
religious beliefs will have died out completely in hundreds of years time.
The ONLY way that would happen, and even then it wouldn't be 100%, is if you could routinely kill someone in a lab and leave them dead for days on end and then bring them back to life and have them tell everyone what they saw, if anything.
I don't see that happening in the next hundred years.
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:01 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by Jon;
the fundamentalists were already religious to begin with and just became more extreme in their views, it isn't breeding more religious people.
lol if you think the appeal of fundamentalist ideas is limited to already religious people
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A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:26 pm |
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Jon;
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Originally posted by Jon;
religious beliefs will have died out completely in hundreds of years time.
The ONLY way that would happen, and even then it wouldn't be 100%, is if you could routinely kill someone in a lab and leave them dead for days on end and then bring them back to life and have them tell everyone what they saw, if anything.
I don't see that happening in the next hundred years.
i didn't say a hundred years, i said hundreds.
also people have died and came back to life and experienced nothing, albeit for minutes not days. why would the length of time matter though?
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:55 pm |
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Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by Jon;
the fundamentalists were already religious to begin with and just became more extreme in their views, it isn't breeding more religious people.
lol if you think the appeal of fundamentalist ideas is limited to already religious people
why would religious fundamentalism appeal to non-religious?
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Fast Luck
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haha as if religion is closer to being gone now than it was 40 years ago
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Originally posted by Fast Luck
hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
listen little friend stay outta the deep end
cuz you're less street than vampire weekend
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:40 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by Jon;
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Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by Jon;
the fundamentalists were already religious to begin with and just became more extreme in their views, it isn't breeding more religious people.
lol if you think the appeal of fundamentalist ideas is limited to already religious people
why would religious fundamentalism appeal to non-religious?
because it offers an alternative to the neoliberal postmodern condition
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A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:40 pm |
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Originally posted by Fast Luck
haha as if religion is closer to being gone now than it was 40 years ago
what are you talking about lol
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Originally posted by Fast Luck
haha as if religion is closer to being gone now than it was 40 years ago
what are you talking about lol
hmm, seems it 50 years ago the USSR was teaching atheism in state curriculum, and 30 years ago even the democratic people's republic of freaking afghanistan was promoting state atheism. pope wasn't let into cuba from the revolution until 1998. and so on. the world is getting a lot more religious
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Originally posted by Fast Luck
hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
listen little friend stay outta the deep end
cuz you're less street than vampire weekend
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:28 pm |
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Jon;
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Originally posted by Fast Luck
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Originally posted by Fast Luck
haha as if religion is closer to being gone now than it was 40 years ago
what are you talking about lol
hmm, seems it 50 years ago the USSR was teaching atheism in state curriculum, and 30 years ago even the democratic people's republic of freaking afghanistan was promoting state atheism. pope wasn't let into cuba from the revolution until 1998. and so on. the world is getting a lot more religious
it's not relevant at all. what governments are doing doesn't correlate to all people.
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hassan-i-sabbah
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it's not relevant at all. what governments are doing doesn't correlate to all people.
rofl
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A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:19 pm |
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Jon;
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Originally posted by Fast Luck
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Originally posted by Fast Luck
haha as if religion is closer to being gone now than it was 40 years ago
what are you talking about lol
hmm, seems it 50 years ago the USSR was teaching atheism in state curriculum, and 30 years ago even the democratic people's republic of freaking afghanistan was promoting state atheism. pope wasn't let into cuba from the revolution until 1998. and so on. the world is getting a lot more religious
the Russian empire (predecessor of the USSR) was a highly religious state, the democratic republic of Afghanistan was still a country of devout Muslims (as evidenced by the strong opposition against taraki and amin's reforms of giving women equal rights, universal education , etc lmao) regardless of the fact that it was nominally regarded as state atheism, the pope being banned in cuba had nothing to do with religion but more to do with the fact they were symbols of decadent capitalism.
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:23 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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lol
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:28 pm |
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http://one-evil.org/
lol @ all the popes on the top 25 most evil list
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hassan-i-sabbah
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the central asian soviet republics had state atheism for like 70 years but remain majority muslim. if the most just and good state in the history of mankind can't make people abandon religion through the promotion of state atheism perhaps nothing can
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A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:31 pm |
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Jon;
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Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
the central asian soviet republics had state atheism for like 70 years but remain majority muslim. if the most just and good state in the history of mankind can't make people abandon religion through the promotion of state atheism perhaps nothing can
they guys who implemented these reforms were probably religious themselves, but were still smart enough to know church and state should be separated.
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:33 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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almost, but not quite. global islamic caliphate ftw
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hassan-i-sabbah
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/20/world/europe/circumcision-debate-in-europe-reflects-deeper-tensions.html?_r=1&ref=world
Some Religious Leaders See a Threat as Europe Grows More Secular
God exists.
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hassan-i-sabbah
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who cares
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