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SarX
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Star Wars Old Republic
I have this game but I'm having a hard time getting into it.. is it worth spending the time on?
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Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:32 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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haven't played it, but its a mmo + bioware so no. you're welcome
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Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:34 pm |
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Soilent Green
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Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
haven't played it, but its a mmo + bioware so no. you're welcome
lol what do you have against bioware?
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Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:46 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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dragon age 2
i'm kinda kidding but they're just kinda real generic rpg guys. i'm playing through bg2 again right now tho
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Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:01 pm |
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SarX
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Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
dragon age 2
i'm kinda kidding but they're just kinda real generic rpg guys. i'm playing through bg2 again right now tho
I was seriously thinking of playing bg2 again instead.. I hear there are some decent mods that make it harder. You got ToB installed Ghost?
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Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:20 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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i've installed the gibberlings 3 fixpack/ease-of-use, unfinished business, and uh i think one other minor one for tweaks. i might install ascension but i dunno, i've never beat the last fight in ascension before its hard as fuck. and i haven't played in a long time so i'm kind of intimidated of installing it, or the difficulty mods. tactics i've heard is just ridiculous, sword coast strategems is supposed to be hard because of the really tough AI mostly but like i said, haven't played in awhile. and yeah i have tob installed. trying an archer right now, if this goes well and i don't hate bg2 by the time i'm done maybe i'll do some overpowered shit like cleric/ranger or kensai/mage with scs installed
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:40 pm |
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Aerasal
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is this the new mmo thats coming out soon? do you have beta access or something? i thought it wasn't released yet.
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Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:48 pm |
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Aerasal
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ive seen very little of this game but from what i have seen it looks extremely generic and no different than wow. only mmo ish game i know about that i have any interest in atm is guild wars 2. i thought you should know this.
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Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:50 pm |
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smurf_king
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play icewind dale 2 instead
its very good (and very hard too), also from black isle studios
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Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:52 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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iwd2 is cool too i might give that another go again soon, only played through it once. kinda boring compared to bg2 but maybe i'll play with less chars in my party so i can level up higher
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:55 pm |
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Allstar
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im playin retro games im cool down with bioware!!~~~!!
but nah i played the beta for star wars and i got bored really fast. It seems to contain alot of kill x this pick up y that, but there is some story involved.
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Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:59 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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quote:
Originally posted by Allstar
im playin retro games im cool down with bioware!!~~~!!
i liked me2 and dragon age origins too you big dumb baby. sorry you convinced yourself that dragon age 2 was a good game
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A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:07 pm |
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Allstar
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i dont need omfg epic perfect game to enjoy it, i enjoy war2 which is a unbalanced broken ass game. What you choose to believe is a good game or not doesn't change anything. Dragon Age 2 taken on its own merits is a very solid good game. If The other games didnt exist and you didnt have something to compare them to that is better, you wouldn't even think of dissing it. :O
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Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:31 am |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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no dragon age 2 is trash. and lol @ the idea that i only like perfectly balanced games or something. bg2 is one of the biggest cheese games in history, there's a billion different ways you can break it. dragon age 2 isn't bad because you can break it, i don't even know if you can. its bad because the game isn't fun enough to make me want to fuck around with the gameplay to see what i can do with it like in BG2
almost no game is as good as bg2 in that respect but da:o and me2 made up for it in other ways, da2 is shit all over
reminder that major dungeons in DA2 are literally dungeons you've already been through in the game but with different doors unlocked
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A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:05 pm |
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GaNzTheLegend
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this game is garbage.
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Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:06 pm |
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BanMe
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I feel like mmo's are like boy bands. They are all chasing the same gimmick, and it's out of date now anyway.
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Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:28 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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mmo's sounded like the coolest thing ever when i was first reading about ultima online in 1997. how far we have fallen...
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A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:30 pm |
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Aerasal
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an mmo needs to do something differently than wow because that game is sooooooooooo fucking stale. i'd rather gouge my eyeballs out than ever play it again or anything even remotely similar. that chuck norris commercial with the chuck norris jokes is so fucking fitting i wonder if it was partially intentional.
i had a lot of hopes for the fps mmo games mortal online and darkfall, but those both turned out to be complete garbage. too bad. shadowbane was still the most fun i ever had playing a video game by far. you could kill anyone and loot them anywhere apart from a couple of safe zones where people traded. it was such a griefing game but i loved it. a game like that will likely never come again though as the crowd it appeals to is too small. people get owned and rage quit never to play again. that game's population dropped drastically just a month or two after it came out and continued there after. and with wow being so successful, now every mmo that ever comes out is going to have its meaningless pvp as a model where you can't loot people and they lose nothing when they die.
edit: another awesome thing about sb, when you died you went back to w/e city you were bound to which could be on the other side of the map. so when you killed someone in a spawn it often meant they were gone. wasn't like wow where there was never any point ever in killing anyone since they could just rez themselves again right next to you.
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Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:55 pm |
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SarX
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Originally posted by smurf_king
play icewind dale 2 instead
its very good (and very hard too), also from black isle studios
I'm getting Icewind dale 2 next..wanted it for awhile, mainly because it looks so much like bg2 and I enjoyed icewind dale 1.
Star wars kotr is an old game, it's single player rpg not mmo.
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Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:24 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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IWD2 has the best implementation of the infinity engine and the best character creation and development system (3E instead of shitty 2E) of all the infinity engine games. unfortunately its all dungeon crawling...still rly fun though
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A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:12 pm |
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turtleman@can
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The only good MMO out is lord of the rings online imo
Not really interested in this game.. It's basically a cross between Mass Effect and WoW. Same gameplay as wow, same storytelling as ME.
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Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:46 am |
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Kith-Kanin
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quote:
Originally posted by Aerasal
an mmo needs to do something differently than wow because that game is sooooooooooo fucking stale. i'd rather gouge my eyeballs out than ever play it again or anything even remotely similar. that chuck norris commercial with the chuck norris jokes is so fucking fitting i wonder if it was partially intentional.
i had a lot of hopes for the fps mmo games mortal online and darkfall, but those both turned out to be complete garbage. too bad. shadowbane was still the most fun i ever had playing a video game by far. you could kill anyone and loot them anywhere apart from a couple of safe zones where people traded. it was such a griefing game but i loved it. a game like that will likely never come again though as the crowd it appeals to is too small. people get owned and rage quit never to play again. that game's population dropped drastically just a month or two after it came out and continued there after. and with wow being so successful, now every mmo that ever comes out is going to have its meaningless pvp as a model where you can't loot people and they lose nothing when they die.
edit: another awesome thing about sb, when you died you went back to w/e city you were bound to which could be on the other side of the map. so when you killed someone in a spawn it often meant they were gone. wasn't like wow where there was never any point ever in killing anyone since they could just rez themselves again right next to you.
Shadowbane was fun but the classes weren't balanced well at all. I played an assassin and I literally couldn't kill anything. There was one caster class that could just fly into a city and start wrecking people and unless you were the same class, there would be like no way to stop them.
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Soilent Green
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Originally posted by Aerasal
an mmo needs to do something differently than wow because that game is sooooooooooo fucking stale. i'd rather gouge my eyeballs out than ever play it again or anything even remotely similar. that chuck norris commercial with the chuck norris jokes is so fucking fitting i wonder if it was partially intentional.
i had a lot of hopes for the fps mmo games mortal online and darkfall, but those both turned out to be complete garbage. too bad. shadowbane was still the most fun i ever had playing a video game by far. you could kill anyone and loot them anywhere apart from a couple of safe zones where people traded. it was such a griefing game but i loved it. a game like that will likely never come again though as the crowd it appeals to is too small. people get owned and rage quit never to play again. that game's population dropped drastically just a month or two after it came out and continued there after. and with wow being so successful, now every mmo that ever comes out is going to have its meaningless pvp as a model where you can't loot people and they lose nothing when they die.
edit: another awesome thing about sb, when you died you went back to w/e city you were bound to which could be on the other side of the map. so when you killed someone in a spawn it often meant they were gone. wasn't like wow where there was never any point ever in killing anyone since they could just rez themselves again right next to you.
Shadowbane was fun but the classes weren't balanced well at all. I played an assassin and I literally couldn't kill anything. There was one caster class that could just fly into a city and start wrecking people and unless you were the same class, there would be like no way to stop them.
Shadowbane was a shitload of fun, a lot of people called that the World Series of PvP. I played up until my guild took over the entire server and everyone quit. I can honestly say that was the most fun I've had gaming. I really don't think people quit because of the griefing though. Even the carebears knew about that before buying it, as everyone had a taste during beta. The developer was forced to release that game early, or not at all, so the release was like early beta. SB.exe crash to desktop error, broken textures, buildings, classes, mobs, mechanics. Ever see someone dupe a shit load of gold or items? It was worse than Diablo 1 for duping. No respec until way late, so people gimped the shit out of their chars on accident if they didn't know wtf they were doing and rage quit. The devs couldn't fix that game fast enough.
As for classes, Assassin was gimped, along with Templar and a few others. Then there were god classes like Confessor and Prelate if built right. I played Healer/Channeler as main, so I was the asshole flying above your city casting AOE lightning bolt and raping entire groups. I also played Thief, which was probably the most fun of all classes.
Fantastic game. Unfortunately it was a failure, and most games that attempt to recreate that experience also fail because of poor development.
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Aerasal
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I played sb off and on up until when the servers went offline and it still had all those technical issues and yeah, i had duped gear and resources on numerous occasions.
I don't think griefing in general like killing people or camping their city necessarily caused the population to drop, but I think actually losing your city after farming and working to build it up did. this definitely led to zergs as people were scared to lose anything and often made it difficult for small guilds to keep their city. this was one thing I didn't like about the game. would have been nice to somehow not encourage zergs... not sure how to do that though.
and the game was also never remotely balanced and some builds were effective and many weren't. you had such variety in character creation and building though i dunno how you could ever completely balance every class.
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Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:54 pm |
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SarX
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KOTR is turning out to be a fun game so far.
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Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:47 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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kotr is a pretty decent game ya. kotr 2 is kinda better though even if its unfinished
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Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:47 am |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
i've installed the gibberlings 3 fixpack/ease-of-use, unfinished business, and uh i think one other minor one for tweaks. i might install ascension but i dunno, i've never beat the last fight in ascension before its hard as fuck. and i haven't played in a long time so i'm kind of intimidated of installing it, or the difficulty mods. tactics i've heard is just ridiculous, sword coast strategems is supposed to be hard because of the really tough AI mostly but like i said, haven't played in awhile. and yeah i have tob installed. trying an archer right now, if this goes well and i don't hate bg2 by the time i'm done maybe i'll do some overpowered shit like cleric/ranger or kensai/mage with scs installed
first few quests were kinda easy so i installed ascension (which won't matter until tob) and most of sword coast strategems, didn't install some stuff that looked really hard (improved liches). i'll let the bg2 krew here know how it goes.
right now i'm rolling with me (archer kit), jan, jaheira and aerie. not sure if i want to go full party or not but probably will for SCS2. definitely going to pick up edwin, was thinking about korgan or keldorn for spot 6. want to keep jaheira but shes not that good as a tank early game :\ haven't played with aerie since my first playthrough, really want to enjoy some cleric/mage cheese, plus my pc is female so i don't have to deal with her annoying romance
other party slots are really up for grabs tho, what do you think sar/the other dudes here who've played this? i'm thinking about keldorn cuz i haven't used him since my first playthrough, he's kinda cheesy but i might need it with scs installed...really wish there were more thief npc's in this game so i didn't have to take jan every time i don't play a rogue
archers are fucking beasts btw...
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:56 pm |
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SarX
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Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
i've installed the gibberlings 3 fixpack/ease-of-use, unfinished business, and uh i think one other minor one for tweaks. i might install ascension but i dunno, i've never beat the last fight in ascension before its hard as fuck. and i haven't played in a long time so i'm kind of intimidated of installing it, or the difficulty mods. tactics i've heard is just ridiculous, sword coast strategems is supposed to be hard because of the really tough AI mostly but like i said, haven't played in awhile. and yeah i have tob installed. trying an archer right now, if this goes well and i don't hate bg2 by the time i'm done maybe i'll do some overpowered shit like cleric/ranger or kensai/mage with scs installed
first few quests were kinda easy so i installed ascension (which won't matter until tob) and most of sword coast strategems, didn't install some stuff that looked really hard (improved liches). i'll let the bg2 krew here know how it goes.
right now i'm rolling with me (archer kit), jan, jaheira and aerie. not sure if i want to go full party or not but probably will for SCS2. definitely going to pick up edwin, was thinking about korgan or keldorn for spot 6. want to keep jaheira but shes not that good as a tank early game :\ haven't played with aerie since my first playthrough, really want to enjoy some cleric/mage cheese, plus my pc is female so i don't have to deal with her annoying romance
other party slots are really up for grabs tho, what do you think sar/the other dudes here who've played this? i'm thinking about keldorn cuz i haven't used him since my first playthrough, he's kinda cheesy but i might need it with scs installed...really wish there were more thief npc's in this game so i didn't have to take jan every time i don't play a rogue
archers are fucking beasts btw...
Korgan is a bad ass and he added some flavor to my party. Not sure if you'll have problems with him if you run a good party though. I've never used Keldorn.
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Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:12 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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i use the mod that makes them not fight/leave
korgan owns hard but i use him every game cuz crom faeyr in the off hand with an 0wnage axe in the main hand is easy mode. anyway for now i went with jaheira/keldorn/jan/aerie/edwin. rly magic heavy but seems to be working...
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Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:56 pm |
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SarX
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Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
i use the mod that makes them not fight/leave
korgan owns hard but i use him every game cuz crom faeyr in the off hand with an 0wnage axe in the main hand is easy mode. anyway for now i went with jaheira/keldorn/jan/aerie/edwin. rly magic heavy but seems to be working...
I've always favored magic heavy groups - after they're all leveled they're nearly unstoppable. Where are you downloading the bg2 mods at?
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