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TheSilverPoNy



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new patch

Anyone else trying out the beta for the new patch? Is someone going to start a war2 channel for this shit or what?

Post Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:29 am 
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kublikhan



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Just installed it:


■Battle.net
■• Battle.net Chat Channels have been added:

■-- Players can now join others in both public and private channels.

■-- Added in-game chat bar command to whisper to other players. Using the /w command will pop up an auto-complete list which includes: friends, party members, chat channels, and other players within your current game.

■• Added a Battle.net option to auto-join previous private channels.

■• Added a Battle.net option to prevent chat channel text from appearing in the in-game chat display.

■Custom Maps

■• Map makers can now use custom UI layout files to create new UI or override existing game UI.

■Gameplay

■• Stalemate Detection has been added:

■-- The game will end in a tie for all remaining players if no players have income, production, or destroyed any structures for three consecutive minutes.

■-- A countdown timer will now appear when the game detects this scenario.

■• Several help dialogue and tech tree improvements have been made:

■-- In-game help is now available in Battle.net.

■-- The help dialog’s tech tree has been improved.

■-- Unit information in the help dialog now displays abilities and upgrades.

■• Selecting different units in quick succession will now fade out existing replies to play the most recent reply.

■• When selecting a Vespene Geyser, the number of current harvesters will be displayed in the info panel.

■Graphics

■• An Extreme graphics option has been added:

■-- Players can now configure screen space ambient occlusion.

■-- Unit information in the help dialog now displays abilities and upgrades.

■Interface

■• Customizable Hotkey Support has been added.

■• Mouse buttons can now be bound to the Push-To-Talk hotkey.

■• System Alert panel has been moved to the top of the screen – duration of most system alerts has been reduced.

■Added a hotkey to Pause/Resume game for both single-player and multiplayer (Pause/Break key).

■• Added a toggle button to the in-game replay panel to show or hide duration information.

■• Added a hotkey indicator option to show the primary hotkey on top of command buttons.

■• Added an option to disable any error sounds. The Response Sounds checkbox now controls whether unit-specific audio is used for error sounds instead of a generic buzz.

■Leagues and Ladders

■• A new Master League has been added.

■-- This league now represents the highest tier of ladder players.

■Replays

■• Several Save/Replay File dialogue improvements have been made:

■-- Prints current directory name above file list.

■-- Added sort order icons to Name and Date columns.

■-- Added the ability to rename.

■-- Added filters for Autosave and Unsaved.

■-- Added an option to permanently save all replays. Checking this option will mark all unsaved replays as being saved.

■• Camera following behavior for observers and replays has been improved.

Balance

■• PROTOSS

■-- Hallucination research time decreased from 110 to 80.

■-- Observer

■Cost decreased from 50/100 to 25/75.

■-- Phoenix
■Build time decreased from 45 to 35.

■-- Void Ray

■Now deals 20% more damage to massive targets.


■Flux Vanes speed upgrade removed.

■• TERRAN

■-- Bunker

■Build time decreased from 35 to 30.

■This is only a temporary change for the patch 1.2.0 PTR.

■-- SCV

■Repairing SCVs now assume the same threat priority as the unit they’re repairing.

■SCV construction movement made more consistent.


■• ZERG

■-- Infestor

■Fungal Growth no longer affects air units.
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Post Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:30 pm 
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kublikhan



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quote:
Originally posted by kublikhan
Fungal Growth no longer affects air units.
HAHAHAHA, screw you zerg players who kept fungaling my vikings. Protoss should be happy, several buffs.
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Post Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:40 pm 
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Picka_materina



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Tos air didn't need extra buff, especially pheonix. Zerg got screwed majorly with anti air.

Biggest beef i have is with the repairing scv's, hope that's fixed.
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Post Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:07 pm 
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TheSilverPoNy



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How does masters league work? I'm 2000 rated diamond. Am I high enough to get in? Do you automatically get in or are you going to have do placement matches again after the reset?

Post Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:15 pm 
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kublikhan



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You have to start all over again with the placement matches. I just finished mine, lost one. Ended up in gold. Bleh.

Repairing scvs now count as an equal threat as a thor, so yeah it's been fixed.
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Post Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:19 pm 
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AGNB



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when is it live??

I highly doubt people will have to re-do placements on the live battle net server to get into master league

Post Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:22 pm 
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kublikhan



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quote:
Originally posted by AGNB
when is it live??


quote:
Originally posted by article

Q: How long is the Test Region going to be open?

A: There's no predetermined period of time the PTR will be available. It will remain active until we feel the patch has been appropriately tested.


quote:
Originally posted by AGNB
I highly doubt people will have to re-do placements on the live battle net server to get into master league
Every other time they have changed the ladder rungs they did a ladder reset. I would expect the same with the master's rung.
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Post Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:33 pm 
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Biggs.



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Finally they fixed the scvs repair for thors and I assume for PF too, a change much needed in my opinion.

Post Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:23 pm 
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AGNB



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yeah I just don't see how they would reset ladder without having an end to "season 1" or whatever it is... everyone who played all the games to get wherever they are in the ladder... no tournament or anything... might upset some people, unless they keep like a screenshot/portrait of it in everyones profile to refer to

Post Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:36 pm 
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turtleman@can



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wow, still not ability to watch replays with other people?

Post Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:18 pm 
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7VlesSiah



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Finally some decent changes for toss.
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Post Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:53 am 
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Kyr.Luoson



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quote:
Originally posted by 7VlesSiah
Finally some decent changes for toss.


QFT

Post Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:07 am 
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The_G0D



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I'm probably the best War2 -> SC2 transitional player on this planet.


Just saying.
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Post Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:24 am 
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Shotgun_



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How do you get the BETA patch? Will you still be able to join the normal realm?
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Post Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:25 am 
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Kith-Kanin



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quote:
Originally posted by Picka_materina
Tos air didn't need extra buff, especially pheonix. Zerg got screwed majorly with anti air.

Biggest beef i have is with the repairing scv's, hope that's fixed.


I kinda disagree. The only time I lose to zerg is because of muta/ling. I just can't get the phoenixes out enough. Sure you can micro them and what not, but phoenixes were tough to get out en masse.

As far as terran though, I still wish they'd reduce marauder hit points and make up the difference somewhere else.

Post Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:50 am 
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Picka_materina



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quote:
Originally posted by Kith-Kanin
I kinda disagree. The only time I lose to zerg is because of muta/ling. I just can't get the phoenixes out enough. Sure you can micro them and what not, but phoenixes were tough to get out en masse.

As far as terran though, I still wish they'd reduce marauder hit points and make up the difference somewhere else.

If you got pheonixes, and he continues muta, he's new. If i already make air, and he makes muta, i never lose. Only time i lose to muta is if i didn't go air. But tos air is very strong in any case, didn't need buff (the last void change actually made them useful before charged). Gateway units need some buff imo.

EDIT: Regarding marauder, it needs to be that strong for tvt.
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quote:
Originally posted by Shotgun_
How do you get the BETA patch? Will you still be able to join the normal realm?
Only NA user can get the BETA patch(and I think SEA users if they use the NA servers). You can still play on both realms if you install the beta patch, sc2 maintains 2 separate patch levels for the 2 realms. Just run sc2 normally to access the normal realm. Run "StarCraft II Public Test.exe" to access the beta. I did not have to do anything special to download the beta. I just logged into SC2 like I always do, and it downloaded the small patch exe automatically. I then launched the patch exe, and it downloaded the rest of the patch. Was huge, over 500MB uncompressed.

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Q: Who can participate on the Test Region?
A: For the current phase of PTR, we've selected players with these criteria:

* The player has had an active StarCraft II North America game account before 11/11/10.
* The player's account is not a guest pass account, and is not suspended or banned.

Q: Are there plans to allow players from other regions to participate in the PTR, and will they have their own regional PTR?
A: We would like to eventually open PTR access to players in other regions. However, we are currently working out the details and there is no ETA for when this may happen.

Q: How do I participate in the PTR?
A: When the PTR is available, a retail patch will add a new executable file named “StarCraft II Public Test.exe” to the StarCraft II game directory. To access the PTR, go to the StarCraft II game directory and run the “StarCraft II Public Test.exe” executable.

A small patch will be downloaded to install the PTR client the first time you run it. Eligible accounts will already be enabled for the PTR so there's no sign-up needed for this phase of the PTR.

Q: Can I still play the retail game after I install the PTR version?
A: Yes. The PTR data is stored separately from your primary game data, so you can continue to play the retail version of StarCraft II by running "StarCraft II.exe", or you can play the PTR version at any time by running "StarCraft II Public Test.exe" instead.


quote:
Originally posted by Picka_materina
But tos air is very strong in any case, didn't need buff (the last void change actually made them useful before charged). Gateway units need some buff imo.

EDIT: Regarding marauder, it needs to be that strong for tvt.
I think the reasoning for the VR buff was as a hard counter to Colossus in PvP. Many toss players were complaining PvP was "broken", too many "war of the worlds" games.

quote:
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I'm probably the best War2 -> SC2 transitional player on this planet.

Just saying.
My goal in life is to be as good as you in SC2 :)
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Post Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:56 pm 
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quote:
Originally posted by Picka_materina
[ Gateway units need some buff imo.



i just spit my food out
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Post Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:44 pm 
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Picka_materina



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quote:
Originally posted by kublikhan
I think the reasoning for the VR buff was as a hard counter to Colossus in PvP.

I was talking about the void when the charge got nerfed but damage before charged got increased. Not the latest buff to massive.
quote:
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i just spit my food out

Should probably not eat and read occult then. Think about it.
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quote:
Originally posted by Picka_materina
quote:
Originally posted by kublikhan
I think the reasoning for the VR buff was as a hard counter to Colossus in PvP.

I was talking about the void when the charge got nerfed but damage before charged got increased. Not the latest buff to massive.
quote:
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i just spit my food out

Should probably not eat and read occult then. Think about it.


i learned my lesson
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Post Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:06 pm 
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turtleman@can



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I haven't logged on in over a month. I kinda feel like these features would have kept me playing. At this point I don't think I'm going to play seriously until the expansion pack

Post Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:10 pm 
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7VlesSiah



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Ditto. Protoss were 1 dimensional before the 1.1 patch. After patch 1.1 they lost all variety of play. The game seemed pointless after the patch as a toss player. Atleast with this they gave toss some real viable tech tree options other than robo.
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Post Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:50 am 
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Shotgun_



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Need a war2 channel.

How about War2bne for now?
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quote:
Originally posted by AGNB
yeah I just don't see how they would reset ladder without having an end to "season 1" or whatever it is... everyone who played all the games to get wherever they are in the ladder... no tournament or anything... might upset some people, unless they keep like a screenshot/portrait of it in everyones profile to refer to


But it should be easy to program - dont see why they're holding this feature back.

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imo we should bring back the channel "Clan 24-7"
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7VlesSiah



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Why bring back a gay clan channel to represent all of war2? Create a channel called War2.
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Have a channel named The_G0D imo.
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The highly respected and war3 established "Clan TWAT" ( The War2 Allstar Team) channel gracefully welcomes all present
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quote:
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Why bring back a gay clan channel to represent all of war2? Create a channel called War2.

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