any zerg players been having luck since the new patch in this matchup?
i've been getting shitstomped. The only games I win are when I get lucky or my opponent sucks.

one game I'm getting rushed with 20 svcs, reapers and marines. (which is cool because they can just mule their way back in the game) meanwhile I'm killing most of their shit with banelings, and still losing all of my drones fighting off the leftovers.

then the next game im getting fucking obliterated like this:http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/91730-1v1-terran-zerg-metalopolis

I was playing terran with chay and sparkz in a team game, anyway i forgot to switch back to zerg and started a ladder game. I hardly play terran at all. I got ranked up against a high level diamond zerg player and I completely destroyed him by just massing up some bio and a few thors/repairing svcs.

Anyway it's pretty much impossible for a zerg player to beat a good terran player , I hope they start realizing this more now that people are abusing the 500 other strategies that they have since reapers were nerfed.

Ofcourse there OP, the last patch didnt fix anything that was actually imbalanced on the T side

Mules being the biggest problem for imbalance

I think thors are the biggest issue with me right now. It can fly (medivacs),It can be constantly healed - and you usually can't even pick off the svcs because they're hidden and it absolutely rapes air and land units. It's probably the single most powerful unit in the game and they're available long before zerg have anything comparable (ultralisk) Pretty much the only way to take them down is to have the perfect unit composition/micro skills and you pretty much have to be ahead of your opponent because even under ideal circumstances, you can't kill them cost effectively. Then you throw in banshees, tanks, hellions, etc etc etc

terran are just designed poorly. I mean, they're fun as hell to play but playing against them as zerg is like sitting down at a chess table with 3 pawns and a king and trying to win against an opponent who has all of their pieces in play.

Thors are fine it's the repair rate that's imbalanced, should be a max of 3 repairers for units (not buildings) Also i agree with you on pretty much all points, i find the problem is every unit is viable generally and is STRONG against everything.. Against P anyway, there is nothing that is weak or unviable. Hell most T's can expand right infront of your face and still beat anything you throw at it thanks to free bunkers

if hydra seriously had a "vs armor 21" or something attack, it would help zerg so much. or make roach upgrades more useful, having to go liar then train, ur kinda past the point where gettin the ability gives u that edge, like blink, or slow
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I am also a contradiction of my own lies

thors are fine. if its getting mass repaired use banelings on scvs.
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tman what r ur thoughts on PF's?
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Yes, terrans are insanely OP and thats because of their ridiclously wide range of decent range attacks. Half of the enemies are dead before they are able to throw a single punch against terran...

Are you guys really that bad???

Zerg has won the last two major tourneys....MLG DC and GSL both over a terran. Watch some top level replays of zvt and maybe see what they do. Because top level zergs seem to be able to beat top level terrans, yet turtleman is all like "a zerg can never beat a good terran"

Please break down all theses strats? Right now Terran basicaly goes fast factory with reactor two get like 4 hells out then gets a thor.....If you lose to banshees and your zerg your just awefull, so that strat is gone.. Hmmm Mass bio against zerg?? HAHAH if you lose to mass bio has a zerg you sux plan and simple. Hmm what other strats do t have against z hmmm tanks and thors, which can easlier be abused by their slow movement.

Where are these 500 strats Terran has against Zerg? Please explain in detail.
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oh yeah I watch that replay of yours tman. You went 1 base hydra roach against terran, rauders eat that for dinner. Zerg going 1 base = auto loss, unless they someone pull of a good bangling bust.
LoL watching more of this game...cant beleive you uploaded this thing its horrible example of terran being OP. This is great example of zerg being a nub.
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GSL season 2 qualifiers:

15 Zerg
20 Protoss
29 Terran

45% of the people who qualified are Terran. Not OP? My ass.
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I have hacks in my brain and I use them.

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Originally posted by Shotgun_
tman what r ur thoughts on PF's?

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Originally posted by 7VlesSiah
GSL season 2 qualifiers:

15 Zerg
20 Protoss
29 Terran

45% of the people who qualified are Terran. Not OP? My ass.

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even the guy who won the GSL was losing 9 out of 10 games to his terran training partner. The fact that he won that tournament was a big fluke.

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Originally posted by turtleman@can
even the guy who won the GSL was losing 9 out of 10 games to his terran training partner. The fact that he won that tournament was a big fluke.

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hey man how does it feel knowing that I can accidentally pick the race you play and completely demolish 1800+ pt diamond zerg players with barely any experience.

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Originally posted by turtleman@can
hey man how does it feel knowing that I can accidentally pick the race you play and completely demolish 1800+ pt diamond zerg players with barely any experience.

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I never said I was gosu with terran, I'm saying the opposite. It's just easy to beat zerg with terran, requires about 1/100th the skill

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Originally posted by turtleman@can
I never said I was gosu with terran, I'm saying the opposite. It's just easy to beat zerg with terran, requires about 1/100th the skill

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nerzyman made me promise not to

im having a hard ass time vs terrans too.

Mules are really insane, I played a ridiculous game where i killed nearly all his scvs, it was like 25-5 and he got a few hellions and really demolished my drones and actually beat me. It should not be possible no matter what happens to be down that many peons and still win. Mules are just free 300 resources and that is insane.

Also, terran mech is still nasty OP... if you are playing as Z, and they have 7 seiged tanks spread out and 7 thors in front and 4 hellions in front of that, it really is nearly impossible to counter that, I have tried everything including bling dropes and 200/200 attacks but its so fucking hard

I agree terran players should be shot and killed for being such newbies.

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I agree terran players should be shot and killed for being such newbies.

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Terran aren't OP, need to learn to use ur race
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Originally posted by turtleman@can
even the guy who won the GSL was losing 9 out of 10 games to his terran training partner. The fact that he won that tournament was a big fluke.

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Guys i have started to like toss now alot =D. I have won so many games and so fast now that i have began doing nasty photon cannon rushes at start while teching up to void rays. It actually works, even though i think some of the wins are because of my weak enemy. But that tactic owns with proper micro management like mine. It's all about doing photon cannons in right locations, especially near the enemy base entrance is very nice, coz enemy will be stuck in his base for long time.

ps. in 4vs4 Megaton, i was able to build mass cannons on the small tip of their base then expanding towards their habitations. They quit quite fast since my all 3 teamies were zerg and they kept on rushing

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Originally posted by 7VlesSiah
GSL season 2 qualifiers:

15 Zerg
20 Protoss
29 Terran

45% of the people who qualified are Terran. Not OP? My ass.

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QA with David Kim Blizzard balance tester

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Q. Some people say repair is imba
A. We are looking into it, but we haven't made any decisions. We are looking into ways of decreasing the size of Thors further, since repairing them is so effective, or making the AI target repairing scvs with priority in order to kill them more easily. There are no decisions yet, we are keeping on eye on it.

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Zerg newbies will not rest until Zerg is grossly OP.
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