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turtleman@can



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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my division is pretty close to the bottom also, I don't think it really means anything though other than being able to more easily attain a higher division rank. Right now I hop 5 spots every game I win because 90% of the players are within the 350-450 range.

Post Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:43 pm 
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kublikhan



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quote:
Originally posted by turtleman@can
my division is pretty close to the bottom also, I don't think it really means anything though other than being able to more easily attain a higher division rank. Right now I hop 5 spots every game I win because 90% of the players are within the 350-450 range.
Yeah, after my division was first formed, I hopped 40 rungs by winning one game :) I jumped from around 70 to 30. It should stabilize as the division ages, my division is still pretty young compared to the top division.
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Post Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:50 pm 
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turtleman@can



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also I usually dual vs zerg as protoss ala bw and it seems to be working out quite well. I usually just get an early cannon at my wallin. I find that if u can get 2 bases going with protoss, it's way too easy to run zerg over.

although here's a funny game I played yesterday vs diamond z player where I held off 7 roaches with 1 immortal and probes, came back and won. After the game the guy added me to his friends list so he could continue to rage

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/57847-1v1-protoss-zerg-steppes-of-war

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turtleman@can



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yeah me too, I don't think my division formed until about a week ago

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GreenHorn



Joined: 04 Nov 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by Sypher
I am pretty sure I am the only person on this board that exclusively plays zerg.

Just sayin'.


Im zerg only.

Post Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:20 pm 
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Shotgun_



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loooooooool zergs are for noooobs
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stoned@chayliss



Joined: 21 Aug 2003
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horns zergs ran me over Laughing

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Kith-Kanin



Joined: 15 Sep 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by turtleman@can
also I usually dual vs zerg as protoss ala bw and it seems to be working out quite well. I usually just get an early cannon at my wallin. I find that if u can get 2 bases going with protoss, it's way too easy to run zerg over.

although here's a funny game I played yesterday vs diamond z player where I held off 7 roaches with 1 immortal and probes, came back and won. After the game the guy added me to his friends list so he could continue to rage

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/57847-1v1-protoss-zerg-steppes-of-war


I find 2 gate rush hard, get some gas going early and bank it, then go into VR's pretty much rolls face. If they stop the VR's then get a few collossus and it's gg. The early rush does so much damage and puts them so far behind.

If it's a bigger map then I dual after scouting them.

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Shotgun_



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I keep getting run over by zerg, i dominate protoss with ez, i might try a dual against them, i use terran so a bunker well placed near my ramp/other hall could be in order.
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Shotgun_



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quote:
Originally posted by 7VlesSiah
quote:
Originally posted by Shotgun_
Nerz seems to be the best war2 player on sc2 (by along way). Then Capook then Koorb.


Lol.. I currently rate(and rank) higher than Capook. Nerz is top 100 NA. What is koorbs in game name?


Capook is 100 points above you..
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KingHillBilly



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#1 in your diamond league pretty much means D- on iccup. sadly

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foonat



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quote:
Originally posted by KingHillBilly
#1 in your diamond league pretty much means D- on iccup. sadly
=(

Post Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:04 am 
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7VlesSiah



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quote:
Originally posted by Shotgun_


Capook is 100 points above you..


I'm 623. That ladder they have takes forever to update.
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Shotgun_



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quote:
Originally posted by 7VlesSiah
quote:
Originally posted by Shotgun_


Capook is 100 points above you..


I'm 623. That ladder they have takes forever to update.


capook is 700, hasnt updated yet
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turtleman@can



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quote:
Originally posted by Shotgun_
I keep getting run over by zerg, i dominate protoss with ez, i might try a dual against them, i use terran so a bunker well placed near my ramp/other hall could be in order.


i'm not sure what skill level you are but if the average zerg player on your server plays anything like they do on mine, you're definitely doing something very wrong. The only way a zerg player will beat me when I'm terran is if he gets extremely lucky, does some heavy all-in ling/bling hit, or outplays the shit out of me. Personally I find that putting pressure on them early by blocking their bottom ramp off with a rax/bunkers pretty much guarantees that I win. it stops their natural expansion, stops any lame all in shit they might have been trying, and let's me scout the map to make sure they didn't try to get a hidden base somewhere. Plus you can always fly your rax over their base to scout them afterwards, and salvage the bunkers.

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turtleman@can



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quote:
Originally posted by Kith-Kanin

I find 2 gate rush hard, get some gas going early and bank it, then go into VR's pretty much rolls face. If they stop the VR's then get a few collossus and it's gg. The early rush does so much damage and puts them so far behind.

If it's a bigger map then I dual after scouting them.


yeah although I'm wondering if 1 gateway constantly chrono boosted would be better economically while still applying enough pressure. I just find that once they start spitting out roaches you're kinda gg'd with your zealots and you really need immos to counter them

Post Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:21 am 
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Kith-Kanin



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quote:
Originally posted by turtleman@can
quote:
Originally posted by Kith-Kanin

I find 2 gate rush hard, get some gas going early and bank it, then go into VR's pretty much rolls face. If they stop the VR's then get a few collossus and it's gg. The early rush does so much damage and puts them so far behind.

If it's a bigger map then I dual after scouting them.


yeah although I'm wondering if 1 gateway constantly chrono boosted would be better economically while still applying enough pressure. I just find that once they start spitting out roaches you're kinda gg'd with your zealots and you really need immos to counter them


Thing is you have to scout. I put the first gateway down usually at 10 probes and then scout my neighbour. If the zerg is there then the 2nd gateway is going down at 12. Then save all your chrono boosts for zealots. If he tries to go roaches that fast he'll die.

Stalkers and sentries can hold off roaches long enough for you to get a VR or immo. I prefer the VR though because it forces him to make more queens or more anti-air, and then he'll go hydras thinking there's more VR coming--in which case you just pump zealots and make a few collossus.

Zerg right now is a pretty easy matchup usually.

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Shotgun_



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Id like you both to play nerz 5 games and then post your scores here.
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Kith-Kanin



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quote:
Originally posted by Shotgun_
Id like you both to play nerz 5 games and then post your scores here.



I've beaten nerz with toss pre-launch. He's probably a beast now though.

Regardless, if you watch a lot of replays most high end toss are 2 gating or quick xping versus zerg. All depends on map position.

edit: What is Nerzy's id? I had him before beta but he hasn't posted since.

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hassan-i-sabbah



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quote:
Originally posted by Shotgun_
Id like you both to play nerz 5 games and then post your scores here.


neither would win, they're both terrible
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A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.

Post Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:54 am 
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turtleman@can



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quote:
Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
quote:
Originally posted by Shotgun_
Id like you both to play nerz 5 games and then post your scores here.


neither would win, they're both terrible


Hey why don't you tell me in some elaborate way why your personal beliefs won't allow you to buy a game that you played religiously in the beta so that you can cover up for being a broke ass loser.

Post Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:39 am 
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foonat



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i am turtleman, real life expedia portal and community college warrior, hear me roar while i call other people losers

Post Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:41 am 
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turtleman@can



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I am foonat, real life retard, here me DURRRRRRrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:46 am 
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hassan-i-sabbah



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quote:
Originally posted by turtleman@can
Hey why don't you tell me in some elaborate way why your personal beliefs won't allow you to buy a game that you played religiously in the beta so that you can cover up for being a broke ass loser.


lol what personal beliefs? i just dont want to buy it. if you want an 0-2 scrubbing again that badly feel free to buy it for me, otherwise i'll save my money for civ5 which is guaranteed to be a superior game in every way
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.

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hassan-i-sabbah



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quote:
Originally posted by turtleman@can
I am foonat, real life retard, here me DURRRRRRrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


wow, owned. just owned. holy shit. wow.
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A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.

Post Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:47 am 
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turtleman@can



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hey listen - you're balls deep in a thread about starcraft 2, in a forum specifically for starcraft 2, weeks after the game came out. You won't see me in a Civ5 forum when that game's released unless I own it or am heavily considering buying it.

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foonat



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the "get out since you don't play" card, nice

Post Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:51 am 
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turtleman@can



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I'm just genuinely curious why he's in here if he's not at least interested in buying the game. You don't see him trolling in the guitar tabs forum.

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hassan-i-sabbah



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quote:
Originally posted by turtleman@can
hey listen - you're balls deep in a thread about starcraft 2, in a forum specifically for starcraft 2, weeks after the game came out. You won't see me in a Civ5 forum when that game's released unless I own it or am heavily considering buying it.


probably because i think its funny to call out scrubs who try to act like they're not scrubs

under this logic you wouldn't be at home in any forum not wholly concerned with being a fat idiot degenerate
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A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.

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foonat



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no one posts in that forum and i do think he has been contemplating buying it and he was pretty active in the beta so i don't see the issue here

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