Starcraft mouse being released by Razer. Sounds good on paper. I'd like to know the weight.

* Lightweight, Finger-Grip 5 Button Mouse
* 5600 DPI Laser Sensor
* Ultrapolling (1000Hz Polling / 1ms Response)
* APM-Lighting System
* Button Force Adjustment
* Always-On™ Mode
* Ultra-large Non-slip Buttons
* 16-bit Ultra-wide Data Path
* 200 Inches per Second and 50g of Acceleration
* Zero-acoustic Ultraslick™ Teflon Feet
* Gold-plated USB Connector
* Braided 7 Foot USB Cable
* Dimensions: 100(L) * 66(W) * 37(H)








http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.199816600/categoryId.35208800
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42 pounds
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no way man, all those features..? Heck, I'd say.. 53.25lbs minimum,

another Starcraft II Mouse
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=009

if you buy that you're the biggest sucker
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if you buy that you're the biggest sucker

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yeah i saw that WOW mouse in best buy a couple months ago and loled
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I don't see a problem with people spending a little extra for a mouse with added functionality like hotkeys. I bought a razer salmosa for 40 bucks 3 or 4 months ago iirc and it's been exceptional. Way more fluid feeling and light than any other generic optical mouse I had used beforehand. The buttons feel more responsive and it's a lot faster and precise. It took me a while to get used to it but now it's very natural feeling. I don't know if it's improved my performance since I haven't really been gaming much since I bought it, but it just makes every day use of my computer that much more enjoyable.

Anyway I personally wouldn't spend more than 50 bucks on a mouse for any added functionality but to compare a razer mouse to a regular old generic optical mouse is like comparing a tube television to an HDTV. There is a definite difference, but you don't know what you're missing until you try it.

40 dollars isn't that crazy, $80+ definitely is
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Well I don't think 80 bucks is that high of a markup for a product with that technology in a niche market but again I agree that there's better ways to spend 80 bucks. But I would definitely suggest to anyone that uses a computer on a regular basis to buy an economical gaming mouse like the razer salmosa and if you're a gamer , I would actually think you would be crazy to not invest 40 bucks in it.

i play games and have fun fine with my $15 mouse so i think i'd be crazy to spend $40 on a new mouse
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another Starcraft II Mouse
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=009

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lol

Razer mice suck.

I think my mouse(mx518) was 60$ when I bought it?
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If you are going to be playing SCII a lot and need a mouse, you probably want the mouse most ideal for SCII. A few extra dollars is nothing if there is a performance gain. If I am going to get a new mouse I'll get a good one. I'll look at the Logitech g9, steel series xia and kinzu and this new razer mouse. They are all about the same price.

Right now I use the logitech G1 and I am happy with it.
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If you are going to be playing SCII a lot and need a mouse, you probably want the mouse most ideal for SCII. A few extra dollars is nothing if there is a performance gain.

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I'd never use a $15 mouse. There is reason to think it is the best mouse for SCII. It has an Apm monitor, 1ms response time, symmetrical shape, adjustable click buttons for hair trigger play... Does it make a difference? I'll need to hear the reviews to find out.

80 bucks for a gaming mouse is no big deal. Many people here have the G9.
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It has an Apm monitor,

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1ms response time, symmetrical shape, adjustable click buttons for hair trigger play...

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Does it make a difference? I'll need to hear the reviews to find out.

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80 bucks for a gaming mouse is no big deal.

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when i played world of warcraft i was one of the top arena players in the world and i played on this same shitty 2 button dell mouse with scroll wheel/dell standard keyboard and raped the fuck out of people with their 100 dollar keyboards and 100 dollar mice, you don't need that shit to be good

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when i played world of warcraft i was one of the top arena players in the world and i played on this same shitty 2 button dell mouse with scroll wheel/dell standard keyboard and raped the fuck out of people with their 100 dollar keyboards and 100 dollar mice, you don't need that shit to be good

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yeah they'd see a good player post about using a specific setup and they run out and buy it thinking it'll make them good. in reality it's much closer to what you say: if you are just as skilled as your opponent, and you are both extremely good meaning you are able to take advantage of millisecond faster button presses/hardware reaction, the one with the better gear might have a slight advantage

apm monitor can tell you when you are slacking. So if you get into a late game and your apms start dropping you'll see it and can adjust accordingly.

I think a regular mouse has a response 4-8 ms. Does 3 ms matter?

Sort of silly to say a piece of hardware will make no difference to your play. That is like saying your swimsuit makes no difference in a 100m freestyle race. Or the type of golf club you use makes no difference in your tournament results.

The cheap mouses have traditionally been used by pro-rts players. It is time for technology to make some advances in this game genre. We'll see if it delivers.
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what i'm saying is you'll never approach the level of play necessary to obtain any advantage from that stuff. to use your example, if i bought a 542523535325 dollar speedo LZR racer or whatever swimsuit and raced someone in it i'd still be slow as shit because i'm not a good swimmer

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apm monitor can tell you when you are slacking. So if you get into a late game and your apms start dropping you'll see it and can adjust accordingly.

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So what you are saying foonat is that you could beat yourself of yesterday with your new swimming suit. Sounds like a good argument for it.

Ghostnuke you asked for a reason why an apm monitor would be useful, that is one. If your apms drop late game it means your macro is probably slipping. It can help keep you on track. In theory it could be useful. In practice I'd have to see. I know people liked using slowdog's war2observe program to monitor their apms while playing.
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i didn't say i'd be better with it, i'd still suck shit and it wouldn't be worth the money

i mean if you have cash sitting around and literally have no other use for it and it will make you happy to buy a super mouse, then more power to you, i just think it's a waste of money

If you are getting a new mouse specifically for scii and you know you are going to spend many hours playing the game, $40 is nothing. It comes down to which mouse performs the best. Do these $50-$80 mouses deliver. I found it really interesting reading the Teamliquid posts for the best rts mouse when I was buying my mouse. Cost was no issue when I got my $30 G1 logitech. I got it because it was one of the best rts gaming mouses and was used by Stork who was one of the best players at that time.
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It doesn't make near as much difference as your skill level.

If someone's better than you they'll still be better than you. Save $65.

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The major benefit I get from my mouse is just how fluid it is. With generic mice, you have to to move them farther to get your action across a screen, so it's annoying having to constantly reposition your mouse on your mouse pad so it doesn't end up flying all over your desk. I also can whip my mouse pointer across the screen with very little effort and it will stop at the exact position I leave it. If I'm playing war2 , I know sometimes when I kick it into high gear and I'm dualing or something, my mouse hand can't keep up with my brain and I start getting frustrated at how I've got to micromanage my pointer because my mouse sucks. You don't have this problem with the salmosa ™