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Kith-Kanin
Joined: 15 Sep 2000
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Logitech MX518.
Still the best mouse on the market for the price.
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Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:41 pm |
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GreenHorn
Joined: 04 Nov 2000
Posts: 1506
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quote:
Originally posted by Kith-Kanin
Logitech MX518.
Still the best mouse on the market for the price.
I payed $40 for mine some time ago. Best mouse I've ever had.
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Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:46 pm |
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Kyr.Luoson
Joined: 01 Oct 2008
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I have a G9 but i didn't buy the mouse on any illusion itd make me more skilled. I bought it for comfort and reliability over shitty normal mouses
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Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:05 pm |
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7VlesSiah
Joined: 16 Feb 2001
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Originally posted by Fast Luck
It doesn't make near as much difference as your skill level.
If someone's better than you they'll still be better than you. Save $65.
It is one of the few factors that influence a game that you have direct control over. I like having good equipment when i play sports. I don't see why esports is any different.
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Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:05 pm |
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Fast Luck
Joined: 11 Oct 2001
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It's like buying new shoes and thinking it'll help your basketball game
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Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:13 pm |
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Sypher
Joined: 18 Sep 2000
Posts: 5698
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quote:
Originally posted by Fast Luck
It's like buying new shoes and thinking it'll help your basketball game
Not really.
Some mice are absolutely awful for RTS gaming because their resolution is too low.
I used to have the same thought process as you, but as I got better and faster, I realized that my mouse wasn't as precise as i'd like it to be. What did I do? Go out and buy a mouse with higher DPI.
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Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:48 pm |
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Fast Luck
Joined: 11 Oct 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Sypher
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Originally posted by Fast Luck
It's like buying new shoes and thinking it'll help your basketball game
Not really.
Some mice are absolutely awful for RTS gaming because their resolution is too low.
I used to have the same thought process as you, but as I got better and faster, I realized that my mouse wasn't as precise as i'd like it to be. What did I do? Go out and buy a mouse with higher DPI.
LOL
Winning a lot more games now huh?
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Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:49 pm |
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Sypher
Joined: 18 Sep 2000
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You wouldn't understand. DPI means shit if your playing a shitty 15 year old game in 640x480
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Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:06 pm |
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7VlesSiah
Joined: 16 Feb 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Fast Luck
It's like buying new shoes and thinking it'll help your basketball game
Good basketball shoes do help my game. They give better traction, allow me to change direction in an instant and give me the support i need so i don't roll an ankle.
I also have special shoes for running. Having proper gear is important to prevent injury and maximize performance.
Maybe you don't play any sports competitively.
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Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:27 pm |
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turtleman@can
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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yes the first time I ever dunked a basketball was when I put on a new pair of air jordans. Previously I had some flat footed bargain shoes. You could argue that the soles were thicker, giving me a bit of a height gain, but I think it was more to do with the fact that I wasn't afraid of landing.
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Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:46 pm |
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Fast Luck
Joined: 11 Oct 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by 7VlesSiah
quote:
Originally posted by Fast Luck
It's like buying new shoes and thinking it'll help your basketball game
Good basketball shoes do help my game. They give better traction, allow me to change direction in an instant and give me the support i need so i don't roll an ankle.
Exactly, you feel the difference, but you're not going to beat anyone 1v1 that you would've lost to, ever, because of the shoes. Same with mouse. Except with the mouse there's no increase in safety or comfort or anything and just the nonexistent skill boost.
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Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:28 pm |
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BanMe
Joined: 24 Jul 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Fast Luck
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Originally posted by 7VlesSiah
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Originally posted by Fast Luck
It's like buying new shoes and thinking it'll help your basketball game
Good basketball shoes do help my game. They give better traction, allow me to change direction in an instant and give me the support i need so i don't roll an ankle.
Exactly, you feel the difference, but you're not going to beat anyone 1v1 that you would've lost to, ever, because of the shoes. Same with mouse. Except with the mouse there's no increase in safety or comfort or anything and just the nonexistent skill boost.
not true. Starcraft has a huge player base so the skill levels can be very close. It can definitely make a difference, I don't even play SC2 at work anymore because I see myself falling way behind my usual pace at home and losing because of it, when winning would otherwise be easy.
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Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:52 pm |
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7VlesSiah
Joined: 16 Feb 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Fast Luck
Exactly, you feel the difference, but you're not going to beat anyone 1v1 that you would've lost to, ever, because of the shoes. Same with mouse. Except with the mouse there's no increase in safety or comfort or anything and just the nonexistent skill boost.
Actually I will. Shoes make a big difference on an indoor court. I get the feeling you've never played Bball at a reasonable level. I played from public school to my high school varsity team. In order to fake anyone out, you need excellent traction and shoes that give you good mobility. It is not just about going forward. You need great lateral movement and be able to stop on a dime. A normal running shoe is not built for this and you'll end up rolling your ankle if you aren't sliding all over the floor.
At the amateur level equipment doesn't matter. That is your argument. I've spent 14 years playing RTS, I'm not new.
While I wouldn't consider myself pro at scii I was diamond league after the last reset. The reset where the highest level you could get after placement matches was platinum.
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Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:28 pm |
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turtleman@can
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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yeah I don't know what fast luck is talking about. I think he's just pissed off that he doesn't own a salmosa ™ which is understandable.
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Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:59 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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*takes regular game mouse and puts sc2 logo on it and an apm counter*
*doubles the price*
idiot consumer: "OMFG its the OFFICIAL starcraft 2 mouse!!! gotta have it!! more money = better player"
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:54 am |
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7VlesSiah
Joined: 16 Feb 2001
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The notion that the type of mouse, keyboard or monitor you use will have no effect on you play is pure stupidity. I don't even know how you could argue that. Maybe a cheap mouse that costs 30 bucks will be the best one. Maybe it is the lightest and has no extra buttons that you'll never use. Thing is, your choice of mouse will effect your play.
I could play war2 with my LX700 wireless mouse but my reaction time is super slow with it.
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Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:05 am |
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7VlesSiah
Joined: 16 Feb 2001
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"Tournament-ready and designed for StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty, the Razer Spectre StarCraft IIGaming Mouse is a lightweight, five-button mouse designed to provide precision and control for RTS gamers. The Razer Spectre features the newly developed APM (Actions-Per-Minute) Lighting System with a multi-color LED that provides real-time performance feedback through changing lighting hues and adjustable mouse button force settings for optimal mouse click speed and control. Equipped with a powerful 5600dpi Razer Precision™ 3.5G laser sensor and a 1000Hz Ultrapolling™ 1 ms response time, the Razer Spectre StarCraft II Gaming Mouse gives gamers exactly what they are looking for in an RTS mouse"
sounds so good on paper.
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Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:46 am |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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quote:
Originally posted by 7VlesSiah
"Tournament-ready and designed for StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty, the Razer Spectre StarCraft IIGaming Mouse is a lightweight, five-button mouse designed to provide precision and control for RTS gamers. The Razer Spectre features the newly developed APM (Actions-Per-Minute) Lighting System with a multi-color LED that provides real-time performance feedback through changing lighting hues and adjustable mouse button force settings for optimal mouse click speed and control. Equipped with a powerful 5600dpi Razer Precision™ 3.5G laser sensor and a 1000Hz Ultrapolling™ 1 ms response time, the Razer Spectre StarCraft II Gaming Mouse gives gamers exactly what they are looking for in an RTS mouse"
sounds so good on paper.
wow, can't believe a company with a product to sell makes it sound good in their advertisements. it MUST be worth the money
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:02 am |
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7VlesSiah
Joined: 16 Feb 2001
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I haven't once said it was worth the money. I said it could be good.
I'd never write off a mouse made by a major gaming company without seeing some user reviews.
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