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			  | Yes |  | 53% | [ 17 ] |  
			  | No |  | 46% | [ 15 ] |  |  
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                | Ideal-Hero 
 
 
 Joined: 08 Oct 2002
 Posts: 591
 
 | Maybe if he was never allowed to smurf, and had to warvid all of his matches. |  
                |  Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:30 am |  |  | 
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                | Kith-Kanin 
 
  
 Joined: 15 Sep 2000
 Posts: 4449
 
 | May as well.  Banning 1 guy cuts the player percentage by about 10% so the more the merrier. |  
                |  Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:38 am |  |  | 
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                | Ywfn 
 
  
 Joined: 30 May 2001
 Posts: 3833
 
 | Only people that still play should be allowed to vote.
 Unban him as long as he doesn't smurf, so people can chose to blacklist him if they want to.  Ban him again if he gets caught hacking again.  No reason not to give people more chances.  This game is on it's last legs.
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                |  Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:50 am |  |  | 
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                | Kith-Kanin 
 
  
 Joined: 15 Sep 2000
 Posts: 4449
 
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quote: 
  Originally posted by Ywfn
 Only people that still play should be allowed to vote.
 
 
 
 
 Hey, I played a game back in december.
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                |  Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:58 am |  |  | 
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                | Ywfn 
 
  
 Joined: 30 May 2001
 Posts: 3833
 
 | Was making a general statement.  That wasn't targeted at you. |  
                |  Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:58 am |  |  | 
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                | [24-7]Guan-Yu 
 
  
 Joined: 14 Sep 2000
 Posts: 1808
 Location: Haarlem, the Netherlands
 | How about letting him make a proper apology here first... |  
                |  Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:03 am |  |  | 
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                | Kith-Kanin 
 
  
 Joined: 15 Sep 2000
 Posts: 4449
 
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quote: 
  Originally posted by [24-7]Guan-Yu
 How about letting him make a proper apology here first...
 
 
 I apologize!
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                |  Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:19 am |  |  | 
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                | [24-7]Guan-Yu 
 
  
 Joined: 14 Sep 2000
 Posts: 1808
 Location: Haarlem, the Netherlands
 | haha  =] |  
                |  Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:45 am |  |  | 
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                | Fast Luck 
 
  
 Joined: 11 Oct 2001
 Posts: 22805
 Location: Penis
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quote: 
  Originally posted by [24-7]Guan-Yu
 How about letting him make a proper apology here first...
 
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                |  Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:12 pm |  |  | 
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                | SoCxHoP 
 
  
 Joined: 01 Dec 2004
 Posts: 3002
 
 | i got no problem with it.  the public apology is a good idea. |  
                |  Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:54 pm |  |  | 
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                | Nedok 
 
  
 Joined: 01 Feb 2008
 Posts: 1040
 
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quote: 
  Originally posted by [24-7]Guan-Yu
 How about letting him make a proper apology here first...
 
 
 that and/or probation no smurfing.
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                |  Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:01 pm |  |  | 
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                | GreenHorn 
 
  
 Joined: 04 Nov 2000
 Posts: 1506
 
 | How long do you think Mage hacked? 
My guess is a long fucking time.
 I don't care if he's reinstated, but I doubt I'll play with him if he is.
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                |  Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:25 pm |  |  | 
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                | cracky 
 
  
 Joined: 13 Mar 2006
 Posts: 3026
 
 | apology, no smurfing and re-ban upon any fishy activity |  
                |  Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:11 pm |  |  | 
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                | Kith-Kanin 
 
  
 Joined: 15 Sep 2000
 Posts: 4449
 
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quote: 
  Originally posted by GreenHorn
 How long do you think Mage hacked?
 My guess is a long fucking time.
 I don't care if he's reinstated, but I doubt I'll play with him if he is.
 
 
 Probably about the same time he started thinking he was the greatest.
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                |  Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:12 pm |  |  | 
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                | Paper_Boy 
 
 
 Joined: 28 Sep 2000
 Posts: 3587
 Location: penis
 | I'm all for second chances, the thing is he's had plenty over the years.... He's been unofficially caught hacking multiple times through out the years.... And I tried to look for the best and just assumed he would stop , I assumed he had some shame.  The  only reason for his sudden new urge to redeem himself is only cuz he got caught. Fact is he's still the same mentally weak individual who feels its necessary to cheat in order to win.
 He's been hacking unrepentantly for years and all of sudden cuz he gets caught  were supposed to say " its okay buddy, logg back on".....  Apology isn't good enough, he needs to be honest for once about years of deception. Why did he feel is necessary to cheat in order to win??? Is the competition that much better, you need that edge to win?  What's it like to fake scout????   Did you call him Hackrie with a straight face?   What gives you the right to use an unfair tactical advantage, when everyone else plays by the rules ?  How do we know the moment you get back doored by Nalzyman you wont revert back to your old ways??
 
 No smurfing rule is already in effect for everyone.... Lance and other mods burn smurfs on the regular.... No 1 is gonna watch an entire warvid for every single game they have to play vs this guy. It's a WASTE OF TIME, that nobody would bother with with a trusted player like Ywfn....
 
 I'm for lessening the suspension if he's able to completely come clean in an honest manner.... Not this Archangel " i tried it for 4 games but it got too ez" bull shit....  Mage needs to come out the hacking closet....  That would demonstrate his sincerity the degree of honesty he's able to display.....  And if he feels he's changed as a person , not just cuz he GOT CAUGHT..... Then I think a consensus of war2 players should be able to lighten the suspension.... Until then Fuck it,  let hackers rot
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                |  Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:05 pm |  |  | 
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                | Ideal-Hero 
 
 
 Joined: 08 Oct 2002
 Posts: 591
 
 | Make him warvid every game and have to supply it upon request after the game.  Meaning you don't have to watch it everytime, just when you think there's suspicious activity.  And if you don't take SS asking for warvid of his play during the game he doesn't have to provide it, but if he fails to do so when asked re-ban him.  Seems like 100% sure fire way to make sure he isn't hacking. |  
                |  Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:21 pm |  |  | 
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                | NaLzyMan 
 
 
 Joined: 22 Nov 2001
 Posts: 1499
 Location: Everett, Washington, USA
 | Do you know why Singapore has such low crime-rate?  Because they aren't tolerant of criminals.  
 Mage knew what he was doing the whole time, if you let him back in he is just going to grease his way into real games because he will latch onto fellow greasers like swift/wg/prophecy, and then if you want any remotely challenging game you are going to have to play with him.
 
 He was given multiple chances already, it just goes to show you the illegitimacy of a good portion of the community because they are so tolerant of such losers.
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                |  Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:12 pm |  |  | 
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                | [24-7]Guan-Yu 
 
  
 Joined: 14 Sep 2000
 Posts: 1808
 Location: Haarlem, the Netherlands
 | ...Said the biggest loser who also happened to ally ex-hacker Nerzyman |  
                |  Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:34 pm |  |  | 
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                | Swift 
 
 
 Joined: 22 Nov 2006
 Posts: 3223
 
 | Mage fucking sucks. He makes people truly think "once a hacker always a hacker" as ignorant as that even sounds. Which really sucks for people like me
 Mage has hacked off and on for years starting in the early bnet days and hes admitted it to me, I told him I wouldn't send the ss of his confessions if he stopped hacking and he agreed...(he had already been caught about 3-4 times in last 2 weeks on few different names) and yet then he caught two more times again after he agreed to stop.
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                |  Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:44 am |  |  | 
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                | Paper_Boy 
 
 
 Joined: 28 Sep 2000
 Posts: 3587
 Location: penis
 | Your kidding?  I thought after this latest episode he would stop realize the error of his ways... Shows how nieve I am....  Seriously its just a game, grow a dick and come clean... Swift admitted he made a mistake and his life wasn't over and he does just fine with out cheating.... Wow, I guess you can put Summoner and Valk ahead of mage now... Post the ss's he broke the agreement |  
                |  Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:20 am |  |  | 
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                | Scrub 
 
  
 Joined: 13 Feb 2004
 Posts: 4009
 
 | It's just too easy to make a new name and smurf in War2. If only there was incentive to keep one name over your entire career, stats mean nothing and they should. |  
                |  Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:54 pm |  |  | 
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                | Fast Luck 
 
  
 Joined: 11 Oct 2001
 Posts: 22805
 Location: Penis
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quote: 
  how can you say that you never did anything but smurf?Originally posted by Scrub
 It's just too easy to make a new name and smurf in War2. If only there was incentive to keep one name over your entire career, stats mean nothing and they should.
 
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 i zero bagged your mother
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by Fast Luck
 hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
 dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
 listen little friend stay outta the deep end
 cuz you're less street than vampire weekend
 
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                |  Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:22 pm |  |  | 
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                | Scrub 
 
  
 Joined: 13 Feb 2004
 Posts: 4009
 
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quote: 
  Originally posted by Fast Luck
 
 
quote: 
  how can you say that you never did anything but smurf?Originally posted by Scrub
 It's just too easy to make a new name and smurf in War2. If only there was incentive to keep one name over your entire career, stats mean nothing and they should.
 
 
 
 Thats exactly why I said it?
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                |  Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:31 pm |  |  | 
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                | 7VlesSiah 
 
  
 Joined: 16 Feb 2001
 Posts: 2456
 
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quote: 
  Originally posted by Scrub
 It's just too easy to make a new name and smurf in War2. If only there was incentive to keep one name over your entire career, stats mean nothing and they should.
 
 
 
 Stats encourage cheating.
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 I have hacks in my brain and I use them.
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                |  Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:15 am |  |  | 
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                | Jater 
 
 
 Joined: 26 Jun 2006
 Posts: 1058
 Location: Fredericton/Miramichi NB Canada
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quote: 
  Originally posted by 7VlesSiah
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by Scrub
 It's just too easy to make a new name and smurf in War2. If only there was incentive to keep one name over your entire career, stats mean nothing and they should.
 
 
 
 Stats encourage cheating.
 
 that y do it?
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                |  Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:02 pm |  |  | 
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                | {Lancelight} 
 
  
 Joined: 30 Sep 2003
 Posts: 1136
 Location: wouldnt u like to know.
 | Stats dont encourage cheating.  The realization that you suck encourages cheating as messiah proves every single game he plays in. |  
                |  Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:08 pm |  |  | 
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                | Jater 
 
 
 Joined: 26 Jun 2006
 Posts: 1058
 Location: Fredericton/Miramichi NB Canada
 | haha |  
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