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Originally posted by Kyr.Luoson
Jon is in the right here.

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why are you repeating that, it's already established that plants are smarter than cows

you're just riding his coat tails
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This thread is quite interesting, few things i didn't know about plants. Jon go on

I'm not sure how I will cope with the smell of freshly cut grass anymore, before this I didn't really care but now the smell will haunt me as the scent of a flora holocaust that destroyed sentient beings
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"...667 seems to be bereft of anything but silly personal attacks and a general vomitory of retardation"

in fact, I'm going to eat a cow right fucking now

now that I thought of this, cows eat grass. This inferior life form is not only a worthless being that walks on walls and eats or may not eat shit, they are also culprits to the genocide of more intelligent lifeforms
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"...667 seems to be bereft of anything but silly personal attacks and a general vomitory of retardation"

after the meal I'd get really high but who am I to smoke something for r&r that is more intelligent than a cow
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can we build things with meat? I feel horrified, I am surrounded by structures that are made out of holocaust material
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"...667 seems to be bereft of anything but silly personal attacks and a general vomitory of retardation"

I want to build a house. From cows. Stupid fucking cows.
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I'll stop eating berries. Unless you can say something about the matter jon? Are berries voluntarily dropped by various bushes, or is it basically taking the children of sentient feeling beings and murdering them?
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"...667 seems to be bereft of anything but silly personal attacks and a general vomitory of retardation"

so unabomber (mentioned in this thread too) was an ecoterrorist. He played for the wrong side all along

makes you think...
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Multiple post meltdown by 667

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Originally posted by Jon;
no it doesn't i know, do you have a point at all?
do you agree or not that plants have an active desire to live?
what is different from eating a plant and eating an animal?

i think the only difference is that we can relate to animal suffering more than plants. lol who the fuck cares about plants they're just shit things growing from the ground, immobile and inaudible. animals can make familiar sounds and we can see clearly, visually, the what effect suffering has on an animal.. we're emotionally impacted by it sometimes. ..
a plant suffering is totally a foreign concept to us, people don't think a plant can feel, but studies have shown they're capable of feeling , they send out distress signals..plants also compete with each other for light, water, space similar to animals...

when you actually learn about plants and how they survive and how they cope with distress, you see similarities between them and animals...

so then my basic question to a vegetarian who espouses "meat = murder" would be why isn't eating plants murder as well?

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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.

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There are some retards in there whose brains need some animals proteins...
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Originally posted by Kyr.Luoson
This thread is quite interesting, few things i didn't know about plants. Jon go on

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www.naturalnews.com
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.

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Originally posted by Lightbringer-
There are some retards in there whose brains need some animals proteins...

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http://www.naturalnews.com/041450_free_energy_water_splitting_hydrogen_fuel.html holy fuck...epic science for the win
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.

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Very interesting, also at my old flat, i noted that a vine plant made it's way inside my house though a tiny hole and though the cupboard to a point of a light source, the share navigation to this area was quite impressive and had to have some intelligence behind it. I do not think it could of got into this area by share luck due to the twists and distance in the dark.

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Originally posted by Kyr.Luoson
Very interesting, also at my old flat, i noted that a vine plant made it's way inside my house though a tiny hole and though the cupboard to a point of a light source, the share navigation to this area was quite impressive and had to have some intelligence behind it. I do not think it could of got into this area by share luck due to the twists and distance in the dark.

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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.

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Originally posted by Jon;
http://aob.oxfordjournals.org/content/93/4/345.full

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Originally posted by Fast Luck
hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
listen little friend stay outta the deep end
cuz you're less street than vampire weekend

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too difficult a read for you?
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no, because it's clearly not making the point you assume it's making. the article is about how plants are not individuals, ie not a single unit, but rather a collection of interacting organs working in an economy. here's a choice quote wityh regard to the point you've been making:

As will now be argued, any ‘intelligence’ that might be ascribed to ‘the plant’ could only reside in organs, tissues or cells because the concept of the plant as an individual is a misleading one.
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Originally posted by Fast Luck
hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
listen little friend stay outta the deep end
cuz you're less street than vampire weekend

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From the conclusion:

Adaptive behaviour takes many forms in different organisms. By using terms and concepts of learning, memory and intelligence that derive from human experience one can build up a view of each type of adaptive behaviour in other organisms, but maybe only at the expense of clarity. Indeed, there is a danger that the adoption of concepts and terms from higher animals distracts attention away from the key adaptive processes evolved by organisms that have not been selected to learn, memorize and think. In this article it has been argued that the ‘intelligence’ perceived in the adaptive response of a plant might best be considered to be the sum of the collective adaptive responses of its cells. A general theme running through this article is that the human sense of the individual easily distorts the ability of humans to appreciate how a plant operates. Even in the previous sentence the two simple words ‘a plant’ feel, to the author, inappropriate because these words emphasize the individual entity.
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Originally posted by Fast Luck
hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
listen little friend stay outta the deep end
cuz you're less street than vampire weekend

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jon is bizatch level dumb
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.

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this thread is great
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Originally posted by smurf_king

i rather be a pedophile than a homo

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um it's making the exact point i assume.

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ie not a single unit, but rather a collection of interacting organs working in an economy.

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Originally posted by Lightbringer-

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Originally posted by Kyr.Luoson
Jon is in the right here.

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+1

Vegetarians who choose so just because of animals having feelings and being alive are pretty much retards (ignorant).

Now if you chose to be a vegetarian because of religion, that would be something else!

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Originally posted by smurf_king

i rather be a pedophile than a homo

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Originally posted by Jon;
um it's making the exact point i assume.

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ie not a single unit, but rather a collection of interacting organs working in an economy.

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Originally posted by Fast Luck
hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
listen little friend stay outta the deep end
cuz you're less street than vampire weekend

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actually, plants are so smart that they want to be eaten. it's true, at least besides the "want" part because plants can't actively want things. but fruits gets eaten so that seeds will get spread by the animals who eat them and new plants can grow in other places. that's why berries are bright colors, to attract animals. nuts, corn, etc. operate in this way. dung from cows refertilizes the pastures they graze. how did all this happen? simple evolutionary mechanisms. plants that are able to spread their seeds and reproduce survive. plants that can detect sunlight and grow in that direction survive. but conflating these in-built evolutionary survival mechanisms with the type of feelings, pain, etc experienced by animals is absurd and laughable on its face. choosing between the two, eating plants is clearly less cruel than eating animals. the only equivalence you can make is with something like oysters.
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Originally posted by Fast Luck
hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
listen little friend stay outta the deep end
cuz you're less street than vampire weekend

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jon have you ever tried eating rocks
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Originally posted by Fast Luck
hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
listen little friend stay outta the deep end
cuz you're less street than vampire weekend

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