I started to play sc2 again 2 days ago. Got placed in gold, got moved to platinum in a day. What I have found? Zergs are stupid over powered. It isn't even fun.

Blizzard has created a game where one race has complete map control. Almost perfect map vision and the ability to mass units in seconds. It is just dumb. Not to mention scouting a zerg is next to impossible. They see the whole fucking map and have units that can snap off anything you send. Yeah, you can send an observer but they get snapped off so quickly as well.

I have to sit there in a corner and weather every fucking zerg attack that comes at me till I can get a ball big enough to maybe win. Just getting a 3rd is fucking ridiculous.
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Yeah I agree that the matchup is stupid , I can't play pvz at all. I haven't played in a while just because I feel like the game's gotten stale. The meta-game's pretty much where it's going to remain until hots and I just don't find the dynamics of the races interesting. Like you say, zerg are all over the place and toss are just almost 100% reliant on surprise. There's never any 'best man wins' situations in SC2 - it feels more like who can fuck the other person over first. I think zvz is about as close to a good matchup as there is since it's very fast paced/skilled throughout and you're on a level playing field. I've had like 5 zvp/pvz satisfying games out of about a thousand where I felt like there was some semblance of balance/back and forth and the best man won.

Well your Zerg side of it must be frustrating as well. You dominate every aspect of a game due to your race design and then maybe lose when the turtling protoss does his one attack.
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yeah playing vs protoss is very frustrating. Like you say, the game makes you feel like you're dominating them the entire time and then all of a sudden they just run you over. Kinda the same feeling against terran - the way the races play, you can rarely appreciate why you lost. It almost begs you to think "fuck that race is imbalanced" every time.

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Every race has its strong points at certain parts of the game. As far as my opinion goes - fuck Terran. So imba.

there's an easy way to completely annihilate any zerg strategy. check out my thread.

Once you start using this strategy, you'll be cruising around bustin up all those rudelords.
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Originally posted by 7VlesSiah
I started to play sc2 again 2 days ago. Got placed in gold, got moved to platinum in a day. What I have found? Zergs are stupid over powered. It isn't even fun.

Blizzard has created a game where one race has complete map control. Almost perfect map vision and the ability to mass units in seconds. It is just dumb. Not to mention scouting a zerg is next to impossible. They see the whole fucking map and have units that can snap off anything you send. Yeah, you can send an observer but they get snapped off so quickly as well.

I have to sit there in a corner and weather every fucking zerg attack that comes at me till I can get a ball big enough to maybe win. Just getting a 3rd is fucking ridiculous.

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Diamond #1 after 3 days of playing. Fucking horrible game.
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There are many different groups of masters,diamond,platinum,gold,silver, and bronze. Being #1 does not mean youre the best of all the Diamond players, just that particular league (in points). Also, Diamond is terrible. The game is fun, youll see a lot better players, more refined strategies when you start playing Master/Grandmaster opponents.

Agreed. The way they breakup the leagues into sub groups is nothing but an ego stroke for newbs. You can't even see your own losses until you get into masters. Any halfway decent RTS players should be able to get into diamond with just a little effort.
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and here i thought 7VlesSiah was just amazing

The way they break the leagues up never really bothered me because I've always been in master league and when I get put in diamond and can't see my record, it's nice when I break into master league again to see my record.. So I'm never really in the dark for very long.

I think it was implemented to alleviate 'ladder fear' - a lot of people are afraid to play ranked matches because they don't want a losing record. There's a surprising number of people that care way more than they should about their records. And there are third party programs that'll track your record for you in greater detail than the ladder does anyway.

It's and indicator of progression. I do not like this game. I just get addicted to the league changes and play for a day to achieve it. Zerg vs Toss is just a dumb match up. You have no vision and no map control and zerg can create the perfect army to defeat your composition at any time they pick.
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every race has gone through their op stage. Zerg are finally getting their turn is all. Everything will eventually balance out, just don't understand why it's taking so long. Just a side note, war2 players should be the most tolerant in regards to race balance lol.

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every race has gone through their op stage. Zerg are finally getting their turn is all. Everything will eventually balance out, just don't understand why it's taking so long. Just a side note, war2 players should be the most tolerant in regards to race balance lol.

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balance my nuts on your chin homey

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Agreed. The way they breakup the leagues into sub groups is nothing but an ego stroke for newbs. You can't even see your own losses until you get into masters. Any halfway decent RTS players should be able to get into diamond with just a little effort.

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Mage, isn't it awesome how sc2 players don't pause the game and ask for ss? It's like taking candy from a baby huh

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balance my nuts on your chin homey

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I do not like this game. I just get addicted to the league changes and play for a day to achieve it.

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A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.

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Mage, isn't it awesome how sc2 players don't pause the game and ask for ss? It's like taking candy from a baby huh

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havent played this in months but I never figured how to beat a big P army mixed with Colossus and void raids. gg...
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Well I don't play zerg but infestors should rape that army. Just fungal the crap out of it, preferably on creep.
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I never found that infestors were very effective against protoss in general unless you've got broodlords out or they're going heavy blink stalkers. It takes like 50 fungals to take down a collosus/void ray and infested terrans are a complete waste of energy if there's even one collosus out.

If I'm facing collosus/ Void Rays - I probably just spam a ton of corruptors and roaches and do everything I can to take them all out, then reinforce to deal with the gateway units with ling/roach/hydras.

just play war2 and go o v. o, it's way more fun in every way, y'all know it's truwe
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zerg vs protoss is way easy. All you have to do is neural parasite a probe and build your own protoss army.

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I never found that infestors were very effective against protoss in general unless you've got broodlords out or they're going heavy blink stalkers. It takes like 50 fungals to take down a collosus/void ray and infested terrans are a complete waste of energy if there's even one collosus out.

If I'm facing collosus/ Void Rays - I probably just spam a ton of corruptors and roaches and do everything I can to take them all out, then reinforce to deal with the gateway units with ling/roach/hydras.

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I never found that infestors were very effective against protoss in general unless you've got broodlords out or they're going heavy blink stalkers. It takes like 50 fungals to take down a collosus/void ray and infested terrans are a complete waste of energy if there's even one collosus out.

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Being #1 does not mean youre the best of all the Diamond players, just that particular league (in points). Also, Diamond is terrible.

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