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foonat
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sounds like you're pretty gay if you're trying to improve on how fast you read a sentence, and i doubt you can do 400 pages in an hour and a half, that's like 4-5 pages/minute
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Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:57 pm |
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$hazm
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Last book i read was Cavern of black ice and Fortress of grey ice by JV Jones. Was alright nothing special but entertaining for the most part.
Before that was the The Symphony of Ages by Elizabeth Haydon. Great books but I felt like I needed a vacation after reading the 6 of them in a row.
Also I read Memory Sorrow and Thorn by tad williams for the first time probably close to 15 years ago. Hard to remember for sure but i think i was around 14 or so. I have read it 2 or 3 more times in the years since and it's always been good for some enjoyment. It's probably been about 5 years since i last read it I might have to dust it off and give it another go here. The otherland was better though.
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Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:12 pm |
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SoCxHoP
Joined: 01 Dec 2004
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Originally posted by foonat
sounds like you're pretty gay if you're trying to improve on how fast you read a sentence, and i doubt you can do 400 pages in an hour and a half, that's like 4-5 pages/minute
i did it for the purpose of reading text books. it helps so much.
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Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:14 pm |
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Kith-Kanin
Joined: 15 Sep 2000
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Originally posted by foonat
sounds like you're pretty gay if you're trying to improve on how fast you read a sentence, and i doubt you can do 400 pages in an hour and a half, that's like 4-5 pages/minute
You have to consider that a good majority of fantasy books are very small, page wise, so it's really not that hard. If you start getting into books by Tad Williams, Robert Jordan, or more recently the Malazan series by Steven Erikson (fucking kicks ass), then yes it does take longer to read a page, but the smaller books by R.A Salvatore I can do in an hour or two. They're not a tough read.
Textbooks take me longer.
One thing about comprehension, turnsite, is that when you're reading non-fiction, your imagination does the walking.
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Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:17 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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Originally posted by Scrub
The History and Discovery channels work fine for me. Who has time to read? Unless you're single or going on a plane trip, I really don't see how you have the time unless you're someone who can open up a book for 10 minutes and throw your bookmarker in. I'm not like that and I read pretty fast.
lol biggest self-ownage ever, its obvious you have a 142 iq or whatever the fuck you said
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:18 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by Kith-Kanin
Non-Fiction takes me longer simply because I tend to want to absorb it more and I don't exactly use my imagination. One thing about reading fiction versus non-fiction--for me anyways--is that my imagination usually can fill in any blanks. So even though I will skip words like: the, and, went, through; I only need to pick out one or two words in a paragraph and then I know what the whole paragraph is about.
that only works with shitty books
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Originally posted by $hazm
Last book i read was Cavern of black ice and Fortress of grey ice by JV Jones. Was alright nothing special but entertaining for the most part.
Before that was the The Symphony of Ages by Elizabeth Haydon. Great books but I felt like I needed a vacation after reading the 6 of them in a row.
Also I read Memory Sorrow and Thorn by tad williams for the first time probably close to 15 years ago. Hard to remember for sure but i think i was around 14 or so. I have read it 2 or 3 more times in the years since and it's always been good for some enjoyment. It's probably been about 5 years since i last read it I might have to dust it off and give it another go here. The otherland was better though.
jesus, no wonder your "novel" is so bad if this shit is your inspiration
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:20 pm |
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Scrub
Joined: 13 Feb 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by Scrub
The History and Discovery channels work fine for me. Who has time to read? Unless you're single or going on a plane trip, I really don't see how you have the time unless you're someone who can open up a book for 10 minutes and throw your bookmarker in. I'm not like that and I read pretty fast.
lol biggest self-ownage ever, its obvious you have a 142 iq or whatever the fuck you said
Hooked, reeling it in. I knew youd say that and that's why you're a self righteous fucking retard. Reading a book doesn't make you more intelligent. There are better ways now a days to gather information and stimulate your brain.
You can gather all the information and study as hard as you want, someones brain can still work faster and better than yours.
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Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:45 pm |
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Kith-Kanin
Joined: 15 Sep 2000
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Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
that only works with shitty books
That's not entirely true.
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Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:11 pm |
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Kith-Kanin
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Also, that's not to say it's totally inaccurate as well. I mean, there's so many ways to judge what is a good book and what is a bad book--same as movies really. A lot is personal preference, but then you can look at books like Lolita, and think that the writing and vocabulary is just awesome, but the book is disturbing as fuck.
Anyways, I generally don't skip over as much for books like the Malazan series. They're very well written and fun to read.
Smaller series books, like Forgotten Realms, and whatnot I can skip over lots very easily.
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Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:20 pm |
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Fast Luck
Joined: 11 Oct 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by Kith-Kanin
Non-Fiction takes me longer simply because I tend to want to absorb it more and I don't exactly use my imagination. One thing about reading fiction versus non-fiction--for me anyways--is that my imagination usually can fill in any blanks. So even though I will skip words like: the, and, went, through; I only need to pick out one or two words in a paragraph and then I know what the whole paragraph is about.
that only works with shitty books
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Originally posted by $hazm
Last book i read was Cavern of black ice and Fortress of grey ice by JV Jones. Was alright nothing special but entertaining for the most part.
Before that was the The Symphony of Ages by Elizabeth Haydon. Great books but I felt like I needed a vacation after reading the 6 of them in a row.
Also I read Memory Sorrow and Thorn by tad williams for the first time probably close to 15 years ago. Hard to remember for sure but i think i was around 14 or so. I have read it 2 or 3 more times in the years since and it's always been good for some enjoyment. It's probably been about 5 years since i last read it I might have to dust it off and give it another go here. The otherland was better though.
jesus, no wonder your "novel" is so bad if this shit is your inspiration
quit insulting people in my books thread!!!
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Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:28 pm |
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Sappy
Joined: 07 Oct 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by Scrub
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Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by Scrub
The History and Discovery channels work fine for me. Who has time to read? Unless you're single or going on a plane trip, I really don't see how you have the time unless you're someone who can open up a book for 10 minutes and throw your bookmarker in. I'm not like that and I read pretty fast.
lol biggest self-ownage ever, its obvious you have a 142 iq or whatever the fuck you said
Hooked, reeling it in. I knew youd say that and that's why you're a self righteous fucking retard. Reading a book doesn't make you more intelligent. There are better ways now a days to gather information and stimulate your brain.
You can gather all the information and study as hard as you want, someones brain can still work faster and better than yours.
Reading does not make you more intelligent, but it generally makes you more knowledgeable. Yes, there other ways to gather information, but reading a newspaper, book, study, etc. is probably the most efficient and effective method. Yes, there are other ways to stimulate your brain (although maybe you should name a few, though I guess logic problems, etc would be examples), but reading is a good substitute for experience and I find well-read people more interesting to talk to and interact with. Reading is a good proxy for intellectual curiosity and seems strongly correlated with intelligence.
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Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:04 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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quote:
Originally posted by Scrub
Hooked, reeling it in. I knew youd say that and that's why you're a self righteous fucking retard. Reading a book doesn't make you more intelligent. There are better ways now a days to gather information and stimulate your brain.
You can gather all the information and study as hard as you want, someones brain can still work faster and better than yours.
Scrub, the 150 IQ puppet master who has no time to read and relies solely on the History and Discovery Channel, strikes again...
like Sappy said reading obviously doesn't make you a genius, but when you say "reading's dumb," claim to have a 142 IQ, listen to Slipknot, make a poll thread about who does which drugs, and support Ron Paul while posting racist rants about "niggers," it doesn't paint a pretty picture
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:46 am |
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ChrisLui
Joined: 13 Dec 2003
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thinking of reading some huxley down the road, namely antic hay, after many a summer dies the swan and maybe the perennial philosophy
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Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:23 am |
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ChrisLui
Joined: 13 Dec 2003
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would you say that noam chomsky is readable for the average joe, or do you have to be pretty into politics?
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Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:19 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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he's very readable, i tend to get somewhat bogged down by overly academic or technical writing but i've never had a problem with chomsky
aside from odd essays and articles here and there the only full work of his i've completed is hegemony or survival, but it's quite readable, and if you want to look into what he discusses deeper it is also very well-cited
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:22 pm |
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ChrisLui
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cool thanks, i was looking at these:
profit over people
manufacturing consent
on power and ideology
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Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:05 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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manufacturing consent is also pretty readable, but it has a lot of tables and stuff like that. not hard to get through though imho
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:17 pm |
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Kith-Kanin
Joined: 15 Sep 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by Sappy
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Originally posted by Scrub
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Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by Scrub
The History and Discovery channels work fine for me. Who has time to read? Unless you're single or going on a plane trip, I really don't see how you have the time unless you're someone who can open up a book for 10 minutes and throw your bookmarker in. I'm not like that and I read pretty fast.
lol biggest self-ownage ever, its obvious you have a 142 iq or whatever the fuck you said
Hooked, reeling it in. I knew youd say that and that's why you're a self righteous fucking retard. Reading a book doesn't make you more intelligent. There are better ways now a days to gather information and stimulate your brain.
You can gather all the information and study as hard as you want, someones brain can still work faster and better than yours.
Reading does not make you more intelligent, but it generally makes you more knowledgeable. Yes, there other ways to gather information, but reading a newspaper, book, study, etc. is probably the most efficient and effective method. Yes, there are other ways to stimulate your brain (although maybe you should name a few, though I guess logic problems, etc would be examples), but reading is a good substitute for experience and I find well-read people more interesting to talk to and interact with. Reading is a good proxy for intellectual curiosity and seems strongly correlated with intelligence.
Speaking of brain stimulation, I have brain age and brain age 2 for my DS and I have to say it's quite fun. Some of the games are difficult because the speaker and mic aren't exactly high quality, but overall it's a good quick brain stimulus.
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Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:21 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by [24-7]Guan-Yu
I read that about 2 years ago. Very good. Rate it when you've finished it!
I finished it over the weekend, and it was really, really great. Probably one of the best novels I've read in quite some time, I liked it even more than Hard-Boiled Wonderland, which I loved. It's been a long time since I was actually sad to finish a book just because I wanted the story to go on and to keep spending time with the characters. I just ordered Wild Sheep Chase and Dance Dance Dance with the remainder of my Amazon gift card balance, so I'll probably be reading those next.
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:55 am |
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Fast Luck
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i told the library to order it so we'll see, maybe i'll read it in a couple days
just finished consider the lobster by david foster wallace, it's a collection of his articles. first time i read something by him, the tone of these articles is very conversational and unaffected besides his footnote infatuation. covers the porn industry, english usage, mccain 2000, and the ethics of lobster boiling to name the big things in here, but whatever he's writing about it's pretty interesting (even english usage).
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Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:14 am |
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kobybryant
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if you like david foster wallace, you should definitely check out jonathan franzen. his first two novels were pretty good but don't really compare to his more recent novel, the corrections, and his collection of essays, how to be alone. franzen's style is much different than wallace's - it's not as loose and doesn't feel as spontaneous - but i don't think that's necessarily detrimental.
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Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:16 pm |
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Sappy
Joined: 07 Oct 2000
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also read some denis johnson stuff (e.g. the jesus' son short story collection) if you haven't already
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Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:05 pm |
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kobybryant
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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yeah, denis johnson is great. last week, i bought hardcover copies of tree of smoke and the complete short stories of john cheever at a used bookstore for a total of fifteen dollars. i haven't had a chance to read either of them yet, but i'm pretty pleased about the price.
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Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:50 pm |
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Fast Luck
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hmm ok i hadnt heard of either of those guys, ill check em out some.
wind-up bird has arrived at the library, a beat up 10 pound hardcover copy heh, this is a lot longer i think than the other murakami books i read
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Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:24 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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its really good and reads fast
got wild sheep chase and dance dance dance in the mail today, w00ted a little
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:59 pm |
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Fast Luck
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oh yeah i finished wind up bird the other day. definitely started great, but i liked first half more than second half (the malta/creta/may half more than the cinnamon/nutmeg/random letters from may half). still very good though. i think anyone reading murakami is predisposed to liking the first things they read the most, because he is a little bit repetitive. ive been reading a book of gogol short stories now
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Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:11 am |
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Sypher
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I mainly read poker related books but I did recently read The God Delusion. Was a pretty good read.
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MassiveAttack
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Hmmm after watching A Scanner Darkly for the third time, I think I've convinced myself to grab it (in novel form).
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Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:59 am |
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Location: Texas
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Originally posted by MassiveAttack
Hmmm after watching A Scanner Darkly for the third time, I think I've convinced myself to grab it (in novel form).
i actually enjoyed the movie but i haven't gotten around to reading it. it's one of those that's been on my list for a while but every few weeks i add something above it, so it just keeps falling.
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Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:59 am |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by Fast Luck
oh yeah i finished wind up bird the other day. definitely started great, but i liked first half more than second half (the malta/creta/may half more than the cinnamon/nutmeg/random letters from may half). still very good though. i think anyone reading murakami is predisposed to liking the first things they read the most, because he is a little bit repetitive. ive been reading a book of gogol short stories now
I agree I liked the first half more, though I think by the time I finished the whole book I liked the second half too and appreciated it in the full context of the story. I missed Creta Kano though. And the letters from May were one of my favorite parts of the book......
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A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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